Author Topic: The dead, BACK ON TOUR (Read 758 times)

flaxattack · « **Reply #60 on:** January 14, 2009, 12:45:16 PM »

if jerry comes back i will pay the 100

until then
i have to put food on the table and food in me head
that comes first and i forget the order sometimes

remember
drugs will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no drugs
albert einstein said this right after he discovered the theory of relativity

lbpesq · « **Reply #61 on:** January 14, 2009, 01:05:41 PM »

Actually, it was Fat Freddy of the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers (R. Crumb).

Bill, tgo

elwoodblue · « **Reply #62 on:** January 14, 2009, 01:12:03 PM »

Flax,
I thought that was a Fabulous Furry Freak bros. quote .

benson_murrensun · « **Reply #63 on:** January 14, 2009, 01:21:10 PM »

Good quotation from Fat Freddy Freakowtski, Bill! And what ever became of Fat Freddie Scat?
But back to the thread... I am surprised by the number of disparaging comments about the Dead and their fans, especially on this website. But, be that as it may, Bill Graham said something like, They're not the best at what they do, they're the only ones who do what they do. Which means they are beyond compare. Personally, I love what they do... It's some of the best improvisational music around, combined with amazingly soulful and intelligent lyrics courtesy of Hunter, Barlow and others.

lbpesq · « **Reply #64 on:** January 14, 2009, 04:16:02 PM »

Oh yea? Well they ain't as good as Kiss. After all, is not wearing makeup, rubber tongues, and stuffing cucumbers down your pants the true measure of musical genius? lol

By the way, Ben, that quote was written on the side of Winterland after it closed until they tore it down.

Bill, tgo

glocke · « **Reply #65 on:** January 14, 2009, 05:17:37 PM »

In regards to the disparaging comments about the dead, and the surprise expressed at that in another post, it all comes down to taste I suppose.

I love early 70's dead. The jazzy jams, the interplay between the musicians, and most of all the sounds of the instruments themselves, brought to you by none other than Alembic....To me, the sound of Phils bass during this time is what drew me to bass as an instrument, and than later on to Alembic.

Outside of the 70's era there is very little Dead I listen to. All of my shows were 80s shows due to my age, but I dont listen to much 80s dead, and I dont listen to any 90s dead. Much of that is just to painful to listen to.

Now, if you were to ask me about some other famous Alembic players, such as Stanley Clarke and Mark King, Id have to admit that while I respect them as players, their style isnt my cup of tea. I dont own any albums by either of them, and I dont even particuarly like alot of what I hear when I hear them play....

kmh364 · « **Reply #66 on:** January 15, 2009, 10:39:27 AM »

I'm with you, Dave. I can't imagine it's cheap these days to drag an entourage around like the Dead. Granted they are long past the Wall of Sound days and the huge crew required for same. While I'm also sure that the vast army the Dead supported has dwindled, they and theirs still gotta eat. Yes, I am well aware of the Dead's surviving members qualms over intellectual property (i.e., money) which infamously resulted in the fans being snubbed for the band's 40th anniversary as well as the free soundboards being renegged upon. Personally, I don't begrudge the Dead anything. After all that they've given us over the years, they're entitled to a Pension IMHO. So what you're paying a corporation their cut too? Jerry's kids and the surviving members (and families) are supported by the touring, the Rhino records schlock and the merchandising, et al. So what? Somebody's gonna get my dosh, it might as well be the Dead, LOL! Just like most of us here help support the Alembic family.

Cheers,

Kevin

kmh364 · « **Reply #67 on:** January 15, 2009, 11:03:32 AM »

PS, ck the vid link I posted at the beginning of this thread...they added another vid that briefly sums up the Dead Head experience, as told by the Band.

Enjoy!

edwin · « **Reply #68 on:** January 25, 2009, 06:55:04 PM »

One can never begin to understand the attraction of the Dead unless they spent time in the parking lot at one of their shows.(Shanty Town) The Dead was so much more than just a great band. People who don't understand the attraction to the band, most likely don't understand the quality of the sub-culture that grew around the band. They search for some flashy thing in their music to help understand the phenomena. Yet they don't find it, and are unable to comprehend the big picture.

I disagree with this entirely. I got it just by discovering Europe '72 that was left at my house by my little sister's babysitter when I was 12 in 1973. For most of the 70s, the shows I went to had no scene outside. In fact, in 1978, my folks were concerned that I would get a ride home from Springfield MA to Boston from an inebriated friend, so they decided to come pick me up. The previous shows I'd been to ended around 1:30AM, so I told them to come get me at 2. Well, I guess that's the year the big union overtime fees kicked in, because they ended at midnight and by 12:20 AM, the area around the venue was deserted and I waited by myself in a less than comforting part of Springfield until they showed up. By the time they got me, all my friends were already home.

Anyway, it's not about the scene, it's about the music. It's true that the music was beyond just the people on stage, but I don't think that they necessarily needed or wanted the unwieldy Shakedown St that followed them around and got them banned from venue after venue. It might have been fun for some, but I could have done without it.

Edwin