Author Topic: I've been fired,,,,,,, (Read 465 times)

flaxattack · « **on:** January 16, 2008, 02:27:47 PM »

my friday night jam host of 4 yrs just fired me. i got yelled at to stay on the bottom in the middle of I want to tell you for playing a plain old b note on the d string during the walking bass part in the middle of the tune. and trust me it was a great rendition and my bass line sang so well until the putz yelled.
later i was told to stay on the bottom on i am the walrus when i play a high c during the i am the egg man. why did they bother putting a g string on the bass to begin with?
its a jam for Christ sakes, i don't tell the guy not to hit the snare or bass drum when he plays or when he gets to high to hold a beat down. it was supposed to be a hang out, lets have fun and chill.
we were not a band- we were not gigging out but his attitude was its my house its my rules.
psst-mccartney doesnt have a five string....
i tried to explain that i try to comply but we all know when something pops in our head it goes direct to our fingers, there is no time to say oh wait,, he doesnt want me to go there,.,,,,
and i put the bass selector switch on scarlet just so he can have his deeper tones on his tunes,.
i'm venting as i am kinda bummed out,.....

hydrargyrum · « **Reply #1 on:** January 16, 2008, 02:44:16 PM »

You mean you didn't play the song exactly note for note just like the original!!!! I bet you haven't even grown a mop top or taken up with any Japanese conceptual artists!!!

Seriously, it sounds like the guy needs to lighten up a bit. Who wants to play the same song twice

flaxattack · « **Reply #2 on:** January 16, 2008, 04:31:45 PM »

not me
its not the note for note thing per se- i get a fair amt of room kevin

its not playing ANY high notes on his tunes- gimme the ole 1-3, 2-4
or its not playing notes when high?

lbpesq · « **Reply #3 on:** January 16, 2008, 05:04:51 PM »

Flax:

And I'll bet you were playing those Beatles' songs right handed, weren't you, you wild and crazy guy! Is this the same group I jammed with in Manhattan? Some people just don't grock lead bass. Heck, it sounds like this guy would've kicked Phil Lesh out three years ago!

Bill, tgo

inthelows · « **Reply #4 on:** January 16, 2008, 05:14:20 PM »

It ain't easy being cheesey!! I luv playin' but hate it when you can't improvise a thing. Other than that ever-steady Church gig, I have a pure jam band just full of free spirits, and spend time composing and writing. I stopped gigging outside because it became a drag dealing with the egos. I find sometimes it's best to let it rest awhile until cooler heads prevail. If it doesn't come back then perhaps it's time to move on. LoL NLP

811952 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 16, 2008, 06:45:24 PM »

Your brain will hurt less not having to deal with that sh*t. He doesn't know it yet, but he will really miss the creativity.

John

bassman10096 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 16, 2008, 07:07:00 PM »

Anybody who's taking a jam that seriously is taking the fun out. Once that happens, it's hard to play well. Better to give it a rest and, if cooler heads don't prevail, there are other musicians out there... Sorry to hear you getting chewed on for a little well-intended creativity. You and that new girl of yours will find other friends if need be.
Bill (the other one)

flaxattack · « **Reply #7 on:** January 16, 2008, 07:20:03 PM »

yes bill - those guys
thanks guys- i aint no saint and i aint no sinner
i can be- mica calls it flaxitude,, sometimes
to take it to the extreme
i was trying to cut back on my indulging. so i would take a hit or 2 on these friday night get togethers
so then one night i got- if you dont bring- you cant smoke- i said- not a problem i wont smoke youra, i will smoke alans- my friend of 35yrs
NO---- its my house and these are my rules- so you cant smoke anyones-
i had a talk with the sage tea leader, we are getting back in gear with gigs in feb.march
i found either them and or me a great drummer tonight, the keys player from sage tea who swore he didnt want to start something new is joining and bringing an excellent guitar player i heard him play with a few weeks ago. so my band ice blue roses is slowly gelling- first rehearsal tmrw
i said this to my annie a while ago- i am tired of getting screwed around- i want to play my music my ??????? way. i think i just flaxituded,,,,

bassman10096 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 16, 2008, 08:39:25 PM »

NO---- its my house and these are my rules- so you cant smoke anyones-
Jeeeeeez! He should take his house and ...well...keep it (and if it doesn't fit, fold it!).

bsee · « **Reply #9 on:** January 16, 2008, 09:49:48 PM »

When I hear a story like this, I always wonder if there's anything behind it but a leader's wish to give the spot to a closer friend. I have seen a few things like this over the years and, usually, they already have a replacement in mind and were just looking for an excuse.

So it goes, Jeff. One door closes, another opens somewhere out there.

0vid · « **Reply #10 on:** January 17, 2008, 02:04:51 AM »

When I lived in NZ, I used to frequent a jam night at the Blue Note. It was to some extent a jam and to a large extent not, the house band hogged the stage all night to play their pre arranged numbers. Lke a rehearsal for them with an audience. I'd seen on many ocassions musos bringing gear obviously wanting to jam only to go home at 1 am without so much as a chance. One time this guy brought in a guitar and a 4x12 half stack and sat there all night - how much more obvious can you get?

Some people don't get jam sessions...

The best Jam I ever witnessed was at Manny's Car Wash in NYC. You sign up on the board under your 'instrument' and they call out the next line up whoever it is. Don't know if they still do that but that's a nice concept.

keavin · « **Reply #11 on:** January 17, 2008, 02:44:33 AM »

Sounds to me like ....first off your alembic was the Prettiest & best sounding /most expensive & most outstanding thing on that stage & alot ( or some) band members look at us bassplayers as we shouldnt out shine the rest of the group wheather it's our guitars or our playing.......trust me those crystal clear alembic bassnotes were killing him all along thus giving him alembic gas & he couldnt take it anymore so he had to find a bullshit reason to let u go out of what we call 'pure jealousy'!

glocke · « **Reply #12 on:** January 17, 2008, 03:52:54 AM »

Bob, makes a good point, it could be he just wanted the spot to go to a a friend. It could also be that the guys on an immense power/ego trip and likes controlling things.

The guys Im jamming with now are like that. Theres one guy that fancies himself as the band leader who likes telling me where on the neck to play, ignores me when I call out tunes to play, etc, etc..

I wouldnt worry about it too much, people like that generally dont get very far.

keith_h · « **Reply #13 on:** January 17, 2008, 04:40:18 AM »

I was at a jam this past weekend. From the beginning we all agreed that a jam is an opportunity for self indulgence that we don't have in the structured environment of a band. Even when we were covering a couple of the lead guitarist originals it was play them the way you want.

Sounds like getting fired is for the better. Why get all uptight in a situation that is supposed to be relaxing.

Keith

cozmik_cowboy · « **Reply #14 on:** January 17, 2008, 06:02:46 AM »

On the herbal end: being a firm adherent to the philosophy If anyone's holding, I'm smoking; if I'm holding, everyone's smoking, I'm just sorry you didn't bitch-slap this ass before you walked. You can't smoke mine is selfish & childish; you can't smoke his is just flat-out wack. On the musical end: if it were a working band, and he was the undisputed leader and paying you, then it might be understandable him telling you what not to play - wrong, but understandable. A jam? No need to put up with that crap. All the way around, this is a good outcome. You need them a good deal less than they need you.

Peter