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bassman10096

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« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2008, 09:08:05 PM »
Motown's probably the best example of the bass line not being what people think it is.

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« Reply #46 on: January 18, 2008, 09:48:40 PM »
I really feel lucky.  It has been many years since I jammed with someone like the people some of you have described.  All the musicians I know just want to stay somewhere close to the song structure and let the creativity happen.  Often we aren't even playing a song, just doing a chord progression, letting the feel wander around, and seeing what kind of nice stuff can come out.
I'm just starting in with a jazz standards group.  Even though we read notation charts and stay close to them, there is room to stretch out. They have even said to just read the chord names and do what I think works if I want to.
Flax, sorry you had to deal with such a bonehead.  It seems to have nothing to do with music, just his own control trip.  The you can't smoke ANYONE'S stuff comment is a pretty clear indication where the jerk is coming from.  There have to be smoother roads ahead for you than the one that guy keeps people on. Good luck to you.
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« Reply #47 on: January 18, 2008, 09:52:16 PM »
If its a jam, then jam. I do think that if its a bonafide cover band try  to stick to the original. But in this case good riddance to an individual with a case of insecurity. I still get razzed because I remember lots of tunes from playing in bands over the years. This is from guys who don't or can't cover tunes. Whatever, life is too short to stress over it. I sometimes jam with 2 friends at a local bar that normally has novice to deranged about their ability types. We jam on out there Frippish mixed with whatever comes up riffs. 10-15 minutes of wierdness, then back to the usual 3 chord fare.  
Whatever it is, enjoy it and play the wonderful instruments we all work so hard to own.  I hope you find a group of like minded souls and create to your hearts content. Then come out with your solo record!

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« Reply #48 on: January 18, 2008, 10:40:50 PM »
ya know
i am being email stalked- he just insists on having the last word and copying in the other 2 guys i guess to have them validate his remarks
when he mentioned my mom must be proud of me caused i called him adolff and i am jewish
i last worded him back- its the taurus in me-
and then blocked him in email...

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« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2008, 06:25:11 AM »
Wow, this is a guy with serious emotional issues.  
Try to forget him and his musical fascism. (or put in a Seinfeld-esque remark)

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« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2008, 09:01:28 AM »
There are plenty of bands out there that play every cover tune note for note exactly like the record.  They are called DJs!
 
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« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2008, 09:10:30 AM »
Life's too short and too precious to devote any energy to that arse, Jeff.  Go play some music instead, and play it exactly how you feel at the moment!

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« Reply #52 on: January 19, 2008, 09:46:10 AM »
Hi Jeff,
 
Pardon me but, 'what a crock'!  And for an open mike no less.  Sheesh...
 
As with those who have said something along the lines of it's one thing if it's a cover band and another thing if it's an open mike.  I say exactly!  The way I see it is the ahem...'dude' (intentionally not capitalized), should have been grateful you've played the gig for four years.  What a maroon.  I've hostessed an open mike for over a year now and if I had someone coming in week after week, to say I'd be appreciative is a gross understatement.  Bottom line is, his loss, your gain.  
 
This really isn't a loss for you, it's opportunity to do better.  And believe me, even if it's playing by yourself, you'll be better off in the long run.  Personal practice is opportunity to succeed.  IMHO, playing with this bozo is the road to nowhere.  As John just said, Life's too short and too precious.  Go play some music.  
 
Best Regards,
 
Kimberly  

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« Reply #53 on: January 30, 2008, 11:52:14 PM »
Jeff,
 
...When something pops in our head it goes direct to our fingers....
 
There's a word for that,what was it now?...Oh yeah,expression!.Jeez,I don't think I've ever played the same song the same way twice.Ever.Trust me I hold it down and do my job but little changes pop into my head all the time,like you I'm just playing my music my way.
 
It sounds like the guy has issues to resolve,especially when it comes to treating people decently.Or maybe he just needs to take the pickle out of his ass and lighten up.Either way it's his loss.Sorry to hear about this Jeff,if the guy doesn't appreciate what you do and how you do it,take your groove and share it with people who will and don't give 'Phil Allgaps' another thought.
 
Best Wishes,
 
Simon.

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« Reply #54 on: January 31, 2008, 09:28:05 PM »
I once had a guitarist ask me why I didn't play the jam part of a Meters tune just like the record. I asked him why he didn't play the solo just like the record and he just laughed and never bothered me about that again. We ended up having a lot of fun together!
 
Playing should be about fun. It's one of the great things about Great American Taxi. We can do some really weird things and everyone thinks it's great. For Vince, the weirder, the better! It's a beautiful thing. Of course, everyone knows how to take care of business when that needs to get things done.
 
Edwin

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« Reply #55 on: February 19, 2008, 07:02:06 AM »
Heh we seem to all have been down this road.  
 
Best Open Mic...calls my name and 3 others.  1 Bass, 1 Drum, 1 Guitar plus me guitar.  We all say What do you want to play and we figure it all out on the spot, never having met each other before.  That was a superb experience.  
 
Worst open mic...guy walks up to me, while I'm playing (think it was lovelite) and unplugs my guitar WHILE I AM PLAYING...and begins to play his guitar through his amp.  I just keep on smiling and strumming.  After about 3-4 minutes of Jam he unplugs, hands the cable back to me and says I thought I heard strange noises from my amp and walks away.  Could be, but several people told me afterwards our jam was so great he wanted to take over (ego guy).  Had several run ins with him since then.  
 
Play for fun I say.  And has any of these people ever listened to the band they are covering play the songs live?  Strange...it still doesn't sound like the studio recording (but still sounds like the band).  Rush is great live, but they don't even compare to their studio albums quality.  
 
My $.02  If anything it is good to know we all have these experiences and walk away when it's no fun.
The only thing that stays the same is change.

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« Reply #56 on: February 21, 2008, 08:23:04 AM »
had to laugh today
saw a cl posting
cream tribute band- must sing and play jack bruce
note for note= bet they want the same gear too.
does the bass player need to have done as many drugs as jack has?

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« Reply #57 on: February 22, 2008, 09:23:56 PM »
had to laugh today
 
Just got the pun.  Thanks.  I needed that (LOL).
 
I'll bet at least on person associated with that project will have an unnatural level of concern with the gear they think Jack played.  I, for one, was pretty surprised to hear he played Disraeli Gears on a Danelectro.
 
Bill
(the other one)