Author Topic: I've been fired,,,,,,, (Read 467 times)

flaxattack · « **Reply #30 on:** January 18, 2008, 06:19:03 AM »

thats retarted greg
i just posted another ad in craiglist
i put it out that i want someone more lead than rhythm to share with other gman and i dont wont someone who plays jerry note for note- aka dont be a clone
getting several repsonses thanking me for saying that
i have sat with some guitarists who actually copied how weir strums...i think those guys you play with are missing a sheet of rolling paper or 2

lbpesq · « **Reply #31 on:** January 18, 2008, 07:15:44 AM »

Hey Greg:

I can do the Bobby thing (just ask Flax), I know the Dead tunes, I'm a long time deadhead, I have a beard and earring, and I can bring my own rolling paper! I'm free every Friday after 7:30. I may be 50+, but I ain't no crispy critter! How long is the drive from Oakland? hehehehe

Seriously, though, I feel very lucky that I've found a bunch of people to play with who all get along and realize THIS IS FOR FUN! My bass player and I go back about 25 years through various configurations. Singer about 15 years, drummer about 12 years. The other guitar and the fiddle are relatively new, about 2 years. We NEVER fight. As for playing, once in a while a suggestion might be made, but it's always in a creative vein. For example, we just started learning Blind Faith's Sea of Joy and the other guitarist thought it might sound cool if I played it on acoustic, so I got out my Godin Acousticaster and indeed it added a nice touch. I play for fun. If it gets aggravating and it ain't fun no more, then bye bye.

Bill, tgo

olieoliver · « **Reply #32 on:** January 18, 2008, 07:20:36 AM »

Creative VEIN is good, but creative VAIN is not.

flaxattack · « **Reply #33 on:** January 18, 2008, 07:22:33 AM »

he can do bob greg- rumor has it he did
but he uses a volcano so i cant swear about his rolling ability

terryc · « **Reply #34 on:** January 18, 2008, 07:52:34 AM »

flaxattack..you are best without that a***hole, if he want the exact sound then tell him to put a CD on the house player.
Jam session..to play the right notes, to play the wrong notes, to de stress after a bad day at work, that's what it is all about.
Glocke..I don't care if I am getting paid or not..I bring what is required, I mean you wouldn't tell the drummer to bring his other kit or the guitarist to bring certain pedals..why do they always give us bass players a hard time. It really does p**s me off. At the moment my current band we do get on well together and the gigs are very enjoyable but I bet everyone in this thread has some right horror stories

terryc · « **Reply #35 on:** January 18, 2008, 07:58:17 AM »

bassman 68...I know where you are coming from there so my little Roland BassCube 100W goes with me if I ever go to jam sessions(very rare now since my current band is so busy)

danny_bryant · « **Reply #36 on:** January 18, 2008, 08:39:48 AM »

I thought the whole point of playing a cover tune was about giving it a personal stamp on the song and not trying to duplicate it not for note. Its obvious to me that the guy lives in his own little world. If someone told me to not hit a high or a low note I would turn around and laugh at them. This all about doing your own thing and not becoming just another bass player. Keep on doing what your doing. There is not a darn thing wrong with it Flax.

lbpesq · « **Reply #37 on:** January 18, 2008, 09:25:40 AM »

Hey Flax, I can ROCK and I can ROLL! lol

Bill, tgo

nate1884 · « **Reply #38 on:** January 18, 2008, 10:22:44 AM »

To continue the 'why on Earth are people such difficult' portion of this thread, I lived with three other musicians who I've known for years and used to jam with, until 6 months ago and I was so excited at the prospect of house of freedom and creativity and not just mindlessly gawking at the TV day after day. Boy was I wrong!

The other three used to be in a band together in their late teens so when two of them started a new project the bass player of the three had a tantrum when he wasn't involved, even though it was a style of music he hated and moved out after 4-5 months, having complained constantly about the other guys band. Apparently the drummer of the two was 'his drummer' LoL

I offered to help the pair out as a second guitarist even though it wasn't my bag either, as they had been discussing it as a possibility and I was trying to be helpful. this offer was plainly refused by the guitarist. Apparently he doesn't play with other guitarists anymore! On top of this, I would sit and noodle around in my room and would be constantly interrupted with someone coming in asking me what I was playing and telling me that they were going to use my riffs!! No asking, telling.

As a result I moved out when the lease was up and moved in with a buddy of mine who had previously been living with a classically trained pianist and had complained to me about the noise of him practicing, but I had assumed it was excessive as my friend is generally a reasonable guy. Again wrong! I now have to sit pretty much in silence every evening as he is neurotic about quiet. He used to organize raves and run a radio station for Christ's sake!

I am now looking for yet another place to move to, have barely played in the last 18 months, and everyone I meet who is interested in playing in London, doesn't want to do it for fun, but because they are going to be huge and make a pile of money! HA!! Why on Earth can't people just relax and enjoy the beautiful things in life?

Vent over, thank you for your time : )

p.s. the 'band' I referred to above are still gig-less 18 months down the line!

nate1884 · « **Reply #39 on:** January 18, 2008, 10:25:46 AM »

Sorry, where are my manners? Flax - I sympathize, and I hope that all the new endeavors are fun and fruitful.

bassman68 · « **Reply #40 on:** January 18, 2008, 04:58:31 PM »

Oh BTW MCcartney did play a L/H five string Wal bass for a while...

bigredbass · « **Reply #41 on:** January 18, 2008, 06:13:46 PM »

Oh yes he did: listen to 'Pieces of Eight' on 'Tripping the Live Fantastic' and hear Macca trolling those low B's and C's.

J o e y

bassman10096 · « **Reply #42 on:** January 18, 2008, 06:46:54 PM »

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bassman10096 · « **Reply #43 on:** January 18, 2008, 06:47:28 PM »

Just to build on the even cover tunes should bear the stamp of the musicians playing them theme, I have a running dispute with one of my guitarists about this. He rarely can tell exactly what made the original sound the way it did, but picks and demands that others add specific, generally small touches he has been able to hear in the original. Then, when the result is not like the original (no one is surprised at this but him), he accuses the person he asked to make a change of not trying to get it right.
Fortunately, he doesn't do this constantly (Only during certain phases of the moon?). But when he gets picky with me, I sit him down and explain that many times I do not want to play exactly the way the original player recorded the bass. Not (well, usually not) because I disrespect the player on the record, but because I want to challenge myself to come up with something of my own (even if it's not as good, at least it's mine). This does not mean I don't often practice original lines for the learning, but if my goal was just to hear the original lines for everything, it'd be easier and cheaper to invest in a better stereo...
Unfortunately, he, like some people, really can't understand why I don't consider doing it exactly like the guy on the record is not the end of my aspirations. Believe me, the guy has other redeeming features, but this issue is really frustrating!

811952 · « **Reply #44 on:** January 18, 2008, 07:39:32 PM »

I have had that discussion with more than a few band leaders. My response is that I simply am unable to play the song(s) as recorded. For better or for worse, I just am unable to do it. Except for YES, Rush, King Crimson, ELP, Beatles, etcetera..

Of course, I usually play closer to what's been recorded than what the band leader thinks he's hearing, especially on motown stuff.

John