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David Houck

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« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2003, 08:09:21 AM »
A friend of mine and I drove to Washington DC, four hours each way, in 1975 to see the Dead.  All I can really remember is how amazing visually the sound system was.

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« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2003, 09:58:42 AM »
With all the advances in technology since the '70's I'm surprised that this concept hasn't been explored before. I think it makes a lot of sense, but I'm still sceptical. I am really curious to hear how that Bose system sounds. I worked for them for 12 years and they research meticulously anything they do. I had no idea that system was in the pipeline though. Still, I'm sure it sounds tremendous but like everything else Bose it is expensive. And getting musicians to give up their beloved rigs to try something like that I'm sure is prohibitive.....
 
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« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2003, 10:53:49 AM »
John; I would like to hear more about your experience working for Bose; I find that very interesting.  When I went to the web page cited in the other thread I was unable to find any specs on the system; nothing about frequency range, damping factor, etc. that would give one some kind of indication of what to expect.  Maybe I was looking in the wrong place; but I came away with the impression that they don't want you to know the specs.

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« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2003, 02:49:34 PM »
Dave,
 
My experience working for Bose was overall a very positive one. It was a very good company to work for, especially if one were in Engineering. Unfortunately, I was in Facilities Management.
 
The Bose engineers are given a virtually limitless budget with which to work, however management expected results. More often than not they deliver beyond expectations. They always have top notch engineers as the guy with his name on the building, Dr. Amar G. Bose, considered himself an MIT professor first and foremost. This allowed him to spot the best talent and usually would give the best and brightest a very nice internship before they hit the general labor force after graduation. Knowing how to spot good talent and hire and keep it, Dr. Bose has built himself a billion dollar hobby. We should all have such hobbies, eh?
 
You are right though, you won't find specs on any Bose product. I'm not sure exactly why. It was never explained to me to my satisfaction. I suspect that it has something to do with the ego of MIT and having your name on the side of the building that says no one should have the need to question the specifications as his research was exhaustive and the end results speak for itself. Generally speaking, he's right. Most people don't truly understand the meaning of the specs and misinterpret them anyway. Dr. Bose places a high value on psychoacoustics, or the science of how sound is perceived. Does the ear like what it hears? The layman's ear usually does and I suppose if something is working for you you don't try to fix it.
 
I used to love walking through the engineer's storage area and looking at all the JBL and other competitor's products that were laying around in various stages of dismemberment and trying to think of a way to get some of the more intact stuff out of the building without anyone noticing. Never did though. But it said a lot to me about how serious they were in their research and that they wanted to know what their competition was up to and how they got there.
 
I spent a few years in their retail group before I left and I recall that the store staff were instructed to reply to the customers' questions about specs with, It will handle just about anything you throw at it. Again, more often than not, they were right.
 
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« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2003, 06:59:58 PM »
Thanks for sharing that John; its informative to get an inside view of things.

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« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2003, 02:07:43 PM »
are we talking about the Bose L1 Cylindrical Radiator here, if so I went and played one today, and the saying that came to mind was if there's no hi's and there's no low's it must be Bose the sound was compressed and would not get as loud as I would have hoped, some how I don't think that 24 2 speakers and 2 sub woofer would work in many live applications, and for the $2400 they want for this setup you can get a Mesa/Boogie 400+ with 4-10s and 1-15 for the same price that will blow the Bose system out of the water, Don't get me wrong the Bose system me be great some applications just not for earth moving bass.
just my $.02
 
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« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2003, 09:10:32 PM »
I thought the saying was all highs and no lows, it must be Bose. Anyway, I have no problem whatsoever in believing what you are saying. I was sceptical right from the start because I don't think Bose really considers rock a true form of music. It may well work for a quieter type of music such as jazz. Also I think their concept involves the entire band using that system. They have a fusion type band here in Mass. that is going to be using it for a few gigs this weekend.  One the guitar players toured with Joe cocker for a few years and I'm sure is very familiar with Pro Audio. I'm real curious to hear his impressions of it. I'm hoping to get down to Worcester and check them/it out for myself.
 
For the money, I'm certain there are many systems that will bury the Bose system. Perhaps for half the money.....
 
If I see the band I'll certainly report back.
 
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« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2004, 06:15:01 AM »
Paul the John one, did you ever see the band that was using all the Bose stuff?
 
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« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2004, 01:47:09 PM »
Never did get down there to see the band. Never saw another thing about it in the local papers either. I'm guessing I've missed my chance to see and hear how that whole set up really works....
 
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« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2004, 01:56:52 PM »
David T,
 
This looks loud all right!  I think I need your rig more than you need my gig (which I'm not willing to give up just yet!!)  Do you have a matching semi and team of roadies as well?
 
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« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2004, 02:17:38 PM »
Mike,  DARN I was jonesing for your gig.        oh well!!! as I said, it all fits in in my Porsche (Not), but my band won't let me bring it, so it's a moot point.  
 
(keep on rockin)
 
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