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rraymond

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Re: Bass Discrimination
« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2005, 08:02:23 AM »
Discrimination - it's not just for bassists, anymore!
 
Anybody here that wants some laughs, and has some time to spare, should click the following link. Get yourself a cup of coffee, put your appointments on hold, and be prepared to laugh yourself silly at the plethora of musician jokes. Nobody is spared! Now, on to the laughter...
 
http://www.ducksdeluxe.com/jokes.html

serialnumber12

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Re: Bass Discrimination
« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2005, 10:59:02 AM »
Those are some hilarious jokes man!!!
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Re: Bass Discrimination
« Reply #47 on: March 04, 2005, 11:34:06 AM »
That story is genius!
 
(Oh and Alemboid; nothing wrong with Ricks, they're my other favourite basses;I alternate between the 2 depending what I'm doing. And the Blueboys look way cool. Not as cool as a Sonic Blue 67 Mustang though....*sigh*...)

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Re: Bass Discrimination
« Reply #48 on: March 12, 2005, 11:07:33 AM »
Hey Bigbadbill,
 
I also bought a dicontinued color Stingray 5. Kind of a pearlesent golden orange. I need to stop buying and start playing more!
 
 
Alemboid

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Re: Bass Discrimination
« Reply #49 on: May 17, 2005, 09:33:21 AM »
I had a funny experience with a band leader after an audition for a corporate gig.......
To start with, I was subbing for a good friend who couldnt make the gig (basically as a favor to him) and  throughout the audition the band leader seemed to be staring strangely at my Exploiter. After running through charts of nearly the entire show. he said, I think you will work out fine, but you'll definitely need to bring a normal looking bass to the gig. I kindly told him where he could shove his gig and quietly walked out. Needless to say, I didnt get that gig but I have worked with that same band leader a few times since then WITH my Exploiter.

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Re: Bass Discrimination
« Reply #50 on: May 17, 2005, 08:31:16 PM »
Gale,
It just can not happen,sorry...
 
You are looking at a bolt on, verses a neck through and the construction is all different... Not to mention the electronics...
Be happy with what you got and seek another bass to fill your desires....
I grew up on a 66 jazz bass and later(1972) installed bartolini Hi A pickups.... (Bass was stolen.. If someone reads this post and knows the were abouts of my bass... PLEASE!!! kindly look into having it returned to me!!!... No questions asked!)...
 
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Re: Bass Discrimination
« Reply #51 on: May 17, 2005, 08:32:42 PM »
 
 
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Re: Bass Discrimination
« Reply #52 on: May 18, 2005, 12:17:53 PM »
I think the best part about playing bass is the lack of conservatism that bass players have.  There are so many choices and they are all viable.  It's not like guitar players who only play Fenders or Gibsons which are a dime a dozen.  There is a place for Fenders, Musicmans, Alembics, Pedullas, F Basses, Laklands, Warwicks etc etc etc and they are all good options.  As far as somebody telling someone to get a 'more normal' looking instrument for the gig, well that person is just plain ignorant and somebody should call the Darwin Police to take them away.

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Re: Bass Discrimination
« Reply #53 on: May 19, 2005, 11:31:56 AM »
I agree with you jetbass79. I've also had a few run ins with sound engineers who complain about having to record anything other than a Jazz or Precision bass to the mix. Some people in the biz are traditional thinkers to a seriously limiting fault.

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Re: Bass Discrimination
« Reply #54 on: May 19, 2005, 12:20:49 PM »
You mean others discriminate against Alembics? Pshaw! I've NEVER had anyone complain about my use of an Alembic.  
 
They did ask me what the hell I was playing and why would I wanna use an Olympic anyway when Sam's Ass and Garbage Center are loaded with cheap, afordable Fender's that are far superior to my no name bass, LOL!

jetbass79

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Re: Bass Discrimination
« Reply #55 on: May 20, 2005, 02:58:20 PM »
Hey man, the trick to those large companies is finding that one guy who has a clue about what they are talking about when it comes to bass stuff.  There's always one and you need to find him but if you're a boutique customer what the hell are you doing in a Sam Ash or Guitar Center?  They don't have what you need anyway.  And you can't talk to most of those people about really nice stuff anyway so why bother...
 
  The reason those places don't have expensive bass stuff is simply because bass guitar sales is less than 1/5 of annual guitar sales so those companies are going to stock what they can sell quickly.  I know this because I work for one of those big companies, at least for another 11 days.  I'm bailing out of that burning airplane before my parachute goes up in flames...
 
Guitar Center used to sell Alembics and Tobias and other expensive brands but the company decided to go public and do two things that would make shareholders happy: expand exponentially (which will be their undoing) and therefore sell what would move quickly.  Let's not forget that a GC employee a long time ago in a land far far away was involved with the development of the Spoiler bass.
 
Let's also not forget that because bass sales are less than 1/5 of all annual guitar sales that ignorance about bass gear runs rampant because there are 8 million guitar players to every bass player.  If guitar players and singers only knew that bass players and drummers spend their lives making them look really good (or really bad), they might be more humble about things.
 
Most humans on this planet are ignorant to Alembic's existent because 1) most people are not inclined to spend the kind of money on something like that 2) they are not students of bass guitar.  They do not have a concept of the history of the bass guitar and take it for granted because this type of behavior is warranted in a society which does not value history. Anyone considering a boutique instrument should look at Alembic first.  That would be the logical, educated move.  A third reason for this ignorance is because most Americans do not have that great of an imagination.  They are perfectly content with something if their peers are content with it.
 
I had a customer at work tell me his 500 Watt Eden was what he thought was top of the line.  Hello, have you heard of Accugroove?  Or Aguilar?  No of course not, and that's because you haven't the imagination to know what's really out there.  I really hate when people think their stuff is top of the line and then you say yeah, you could pay $15K for a bass and $10K for a bass amp setup in a heartbeat.  People often need to be put into perspective, only as a salesperson I can't always be so blunt.
 
Back to my point about being a student of the bass.  My 1966 Precision and 1974 Precision are never going to leave my posession under any circumstances because they are after all, examples of the Industry Standard and they have their own vibe about them.  I know where they came from.  Same with my Japanese '75 reissue Jazz Bass that is my prize souvenir from Tokyo, Japan because you can't get them in the USA new anymore.  It's got the perfect Jazz sound.  I chose the Alembic as my 10th anniversary of playing gift to myself because I wanted something that was like me: totally unique.  I also wanted the genuine article in a boutique instrument.  Alembic invented the boutique bass guitar and established its market, just as Clarence Leo Fender invented the bass guitar itself and established the bass guitar market.  The choice was obvious.

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Re: Bass Discrimination
« Reply #56 on: June 14, 2005, 07:54:40 AM »
A twist: Alembic Appreciation.
I play bass for one of the two celebration bands at church.
One of the guitarits for my band is a former bass player from the Bay Area, Oooo, that's a nice bass. Can I play it?
The other guitarist upon first sight from forty feet away, Hey, is that an Alembic? Pronounced correctly, to boot.
 
As it happens, the other band is anchored by a '76 Series 1. The soundman owns a custom 5 string Alembic.
What are the chances? I think that's too cool.
 
(I'm afraid we're reaching critical mass....)

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Re: Bass Discrimination
« Reply #57 on: June 14, 2005, 10:43:19 AM »
Okay, Mike, where's this Alembic church??
 
I'm over at First Baptist Carrollton with my Series II.....
 
Along the lines of your guitarist recognition:  When I first started visiting First Carrollton, the orchestra director and his wife took us out to dinner.  From the front door of our house, you could see my 20th Anniversary in the living room.  I promise, the first words out of his mouth were, That's not an Alembic is it?  He's a percussionist for crying out loud!  That pretty well sealed our joining the orchestra, of course.
 
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Re: Bass Discrimination
« Reply #58 on: June 14, 2005, 01:25:44 PM »
Hey, Wayne
 
Fellowship Bible Church North, that's in Plano. Musically it's like a KLTY hit-parade.
 
I like your story, makes you feel at home when it happens.
 
Mike

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Re: Bass Discrimination
« Reply #59 on: June 17, 2005, 12:53:36 PM »
I just read this on the Fodera site.  It describes how Victor Wooten ended up switching from an Alembic to Fodera.
 
I'm sure many of you may already know this but some may not.
 
As an aside, I ordered by first Alembic about two weeks ago.  The hard part is trying not to think about it for the next few months.  :-)
 
Regards,
Troy