Author Topic: Speaker size: 10" vs 15" (Read 834 times)

gare · « **Reply #30 on:** October 25, 2005, 06:14:11 AM »

I also think one needs to match their ampage to the instrument. Does one really need a rig that will go 8hz to 20k hz ? From discussions in previous threads, the instrument range just isn't there. If you play 4 string, your low fundamental is what 41.3 or there abouts ? And from the previous discussions getting out to 6k to 7k is a stretch. Of course 5 or 6 string basses are another story.
I'd agree with Keith that 10's and 15's cover most of the range needed. But with todays technologys, 10's and 12's are getting down in range to match alot of 15's.
I do sometimes miss earlier times when when you plugged in to 1 of 2 inputs and there was a volume, bass, & treble knob. And no horns in the cabinets.
I'd like to hear Tornadic Thunder sometime, bet that could make your hair go straight back (think wind blown effect)

phildo · « **Reply #31 on:** October 25, 2005, 07:49:05 AM »

hey guys. im new here. so howdie, but anywho. i play through a 4x10 and a 15. honestly i am a big fan of the 15 because it can actually handel the low end part of my tone and i continually ruin my 10's. so i usually play through the 15 by itself. but as for practice. i use my minx 110 peavey. just sounds good for practice.

ed_r · « **Reply #32 on:** October 25, 2005, 07:58:30 AM »

Most people are over-rigged, if you ask me, but thats' OK, it keeps people employed all over the planet.

jacko · « **Reply #33 on:** October 25, 2005, 08:00:54 AM »

Especially doctors ;-)

alembic76407 · « **Reply #34 on:** October 25, 2005, 10:53:59 AM »

hey Paul (TBO)

that rig would make their cloths fall off,

and I have the pictures to prove it!!!! HEHEHEHE!!!!!

David T (TLO)

gbarchus · « **Reply #35 on:** October 25, 2005, 05:15:27 PM »

phildo,

welcome to the club!

gale

bigredbass · « **Reply #36 on:** October 25, 2005, 10:32:56 PM »

Yes, I DID love waling up to those big stacks . . . and Gale, I'm forever jealous: I'd give my eye teeth to find a pair of of Cabaret 115s in mint shape.

I always wished for a bass equivalent of a Twin Reverb. Super Redheds, Metros, etc. are close but they never really sound right to me unless they run an extension 15. I'd always hoped Steve Rabe would have engineered a 212 Redhead
(and no the Silverado wasn't it at all). . . maybe one day. I convinced 212s in the right cabinet in a combo style would be close enough to my beloved 15s to do it.

Incidentally, Mesa's Venture combo is my-T-fine and pretty close.

J o e y

mpisanek · « **Reply #37 on:** October 27, 2005, 03:47:13 AM »

Do any of you guys know anything about the newer neodynium speakers. They are supposed to be much lighter than conventional speakers and be able to handle much more power. The new Tech21Soundsystem stuff is an example of it. The DB rating of the newer cabs fitted with these speakers is supposedly higher as well. Any thoughts?

phys49 · « **Reply #38 on:** October 27, 2005, 06:05:07 AM »

Neodymium is a rare earth element that is being used as magnet material in some applications to replace the conventional alnico magnets.
The advantage is that neodymium magnets are lighter in weight and smaller in size than an equivalent strength conventional magnet.
The weight of a neodymium speaker can be half of the weight of a conventional speaker.
I haven't tried one yet, but I have noticed that my conventional cabinets(SWR 2X12 and 1X15) get heavier each time I use them. And these cabinets are light compared to the rolled and pleated Kustom folded horn 18 I used in the good old days when I could easily lift 150 lbs.
Eminence and some other speaker companies are offering neodymium speakers as replacement options. The next time I replace a speaker, I will try one to see how they sound.
Perry

jacko · « **Reply #39 on:** October 27, 2005, 06:09:54 AM »

I'm going for Markbass due to the weight. 56lbs for the 4x10 and 53 for the 1x15. Combined that's roughly the same wheight as my trace combo! Just hope I can live with the bright yellow speaker cones ;-)

Graeme

worldfamousandy · « **Reply #40 on:** October 27, 2005, 08:23:05 AM »

My conventional cabinets also seem to be gaining weight as they age. Then again, so am I.

karl · « **Reply #41 on:** October 27, 2005, 08:59:20 AM »

I have to put a word in here for Phil Jones' 5 speakers - unconventional for bass speakers, for sure, and like everyone else, I kinda assumed you needed the bigger speakers to get the warmth and the real bottom end. But Phil Jones does it by loading his cabs with six of these 5 cones. Trouble is, that's six magnets, which makes the thing damn heavy for its size (83lbs). Beautiful deep round and responsive sound though.

K.

gare · « **Reply #42 on:** October 27, 2005, 09:09:37 AM »

I don't have any first hand experience with the neo's, but reading the the spec's they also seem to have better frequency response. (that may not just be from the magnet tho) And they seem to command a premium price (like the Beymas), but they appear to be worth the investment.
Also from what I've read, neodymium magnets are more sensive to higher temperatures than conventional magnets.

David Houck · « **Reply #43 on:** November 02, 2005, 06:50:42 AM »

Some previous comments on neodymium are here.

chip · « **Reply #44 on:** November 04, 2005, 06:50:45 AM »

Re: other alternatives. I use my Series II 6-string with a rig suggested by the folks at Alembic. A 4X10 BagEnd cab (#Q10BX-D)( with one co-ax tweeter), a 1X 18 BagEnd cab (S 18 E) , and using the BagEnd sub processer (MX-2). Pre-amp is Alembic and powere is a stereo Carver 950, which comes after the processor w/ one side pushing the 10's and one side pushing the 18. I was promised HI-FI and it certainly delivers.

Author Topic: Speaker size: 10" vs 15" (Read 834 times)

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