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yahyabb

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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2003, 06:55:01 PM »
Mike;  
 
To answer your question.  Stereo is an advantage when you want to truely hear or feel your axe. However, part of the setup is having full range speakers for each pickup.    
 
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palembic

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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2003, 09:36:31 PM »
Post-rehearsal report
 
...but I think you will notice a difference in tone and better noise rejection.  
 
Fully correct Wayne.
Unfortunately I didn't had the chance to really A/B the situations. The rehearsal started late because yours truly, when arriving in situ discovered he ...forgot his bass at home DOH!!!
I had more low end in my sound giving constant settings on my F1-X. I have no idea if the reason was being louder. I climbed Tweak Peaks and messed around with some settings -which is still an adventure and I guess it will be for a long time- to get a deeper and braoder tone. Although I felt loss in the tone area of the  A on the D string.
If I keep the input this was I'll spend some more time on Tweak Peaks.
BTW we have a gig coming up on saturday night this week in Tervuren (you're all invited) so there will be a post-gig report next week.
 
Paul the bad one

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« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2003, 08:36:14 AM »
Thanks to everyone, lots to think about. The possibilities are endless...I'm not that familiar with the 20th Anniv elec's. Would they be fundamentaly different than say Signature w/ a stereo/mono switch and pick up selector?
 
Mike

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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2003, 10:53:38 AM »
Brother Mike,  
 
I'll try to explain in my own moron lingo.  
Anniv electronics are in fact teh same as playing with the knobs on a Les Paul Gibson (Susan, Ron and Mica no insult mended). To make myself clear: signature electronics -and all other 2 PU electronics on Alembic- are of the OR type. That means that by panning you choose PU1 OR PU2 adding together in a theoretical identical amopunt of volume where only the source of that amount of volume differs. So to get the set volume 7, you get 4 from PU1 and 3 from PU2. The maximum 7 is GIVEN by your volume potmeter.  
Anniversary electronics are different: there is a volume PER PU! So it's an AND setup. It is not OR PU1 for amount x with PU2 for amount y but PU1 AND PU2.  
That means that you ADD volumes.  
Let me explain in another way (thanks to gool old baldhead EVH).  
If you start with a setting you like on the neck PU (twiggle around with filter and 3p Qswitch) -what most of the time defines the penetration (excuse me the sexist word) of the bass sound- you can ADD a sound into that PU sound coming from the neck PU. It's a total different concept of tone shaping. I said earlier Les Paul guitars but I could said also Fender JB (there IS a reason why you see a lot of ALembic players with a JB while others would prefer a P) where you have a volume knob for every PU and 1 overall colour.  
 
In signature the volume is -for example- limited to 7 (it's how you put your volume knob) so you choose every possile combination between PU1 delivering 1 and PU 2 delivering 6 to PU1 delivering  6 and PU2 delivering 1 (every time it adds up to 7).  
Using an anniversary you ADD to the set volume 6 of PU1 an amount of volume from PU2. That ADDING makes the difference. So you can ADD by PU1 at 6 an amount of 6 from PU2. So you get 12. (I'd like to talk of the Volume of Series I's as 10 + 10)
 
Sounds great?  
Well ...for some people it's highy too complicated. Because volume and tone are defintely related in this set-up: by opening the volume knob of the neck PU you ADD deeper and rounder sounds to your bridge PU. BTW: it's why Series II's have a general volume knob. It's why I always say to Series starters (o-oh there I go in old-timer setting): try to think of the 2 volumes as a TONE manipulator. General volume will be take care of by your amp of -in given case- by the general volume on the SII's.  
 
***sigh*** I hope you understand. It's not evident to explain this in US-lingo for me.  
 
Paul the bad one  
 
PS: another way an Alembic S-bass is the technical and conceptual marriage between Fender JB pick-ups and Gibson Les Paul tone control with Susanesc feel for design and Ronwise techneuticals  
(okay ....I'm dead now)
 
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mikedm

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« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2003, 01:16:02 PM »
Paul, thanks for the lesson. Catch your breath, I follow you just fine.
 
Mike