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kenbass4

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« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2004, 12:58:32 PM »
Paul (slacker42uk, there's a lot of Pauls here)
 
I can assure you that the low end models are NOT built quickly, or with any less attention than the Series instruments. Last year I had a custom Rogue built for me. I ordered it in October, received it in January. The bass performes FLAWLESSLY. Currently, I have an Excel on order, and I believe it will be December before it is completed. The Excel is their lowest price bass model, but I certainly wouldn't refer to it as cheap, either in price or quality. I have to agree with Bill in that if you had contacted Mica or Susan, they would have done everything humanly possible to make it right. But I certainly do understand your frustration with making such a commitment and not getting what you wanted.
 
Ken (TEO)

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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2004, 01:03:53 PM »
Oh yeah - one minor correction - the price increase is slated for January 5th.

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« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2004, 01:07:11 PM »
O crap,yeah and i have that exact picture on the wall above my computer.look i feel awful.i was just so dissapointed at the time.the bass center gave me only ?800 for the bass[the stanley clarke]on a part exchange,saying that they couldnt give me anymore because it was a custom made instrument.i was dissheartened big time.i 'spose anti alembic for a while.as far as speed or production-i take it back.i stand corrected.in fact i wish i never opened my mouth.

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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2004, 01:08:24 PM »
Paul/Slacker4UK's message posted at 12:08PM.
 
Mica Wickersham's response: 12:56PM.
 
Doesn't that say something about the _company_?
 
At any rate, Paul, if the buzzing problem had been solved, would you have kept the bass? In other words, was it what you would have liked otherwise?  
 
And were these used, or new?
 
Anyway, if you ever get an Alembic in your hands again, don't quit until someone at the factory tries to make it perfect for you. I bet they can.
 
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« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2004, 01:12:23 PM »
Don't run away, Paul! It's just that the statement of several different basses not working out for you comes as a surprise to the user group.
 
Posts like yours are things the factory should be interested in hearing...as you can tell from Mica's message, they've changed what they send to the UK based on what the users want to put on them. That's called engineering...feedback is a must. Stick around!
 
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« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2004, 01:20:19 PM »
effclef is right ...  
dont feel bad. you are entitled to vent.
Ill just say welcome to the club ...and be gone
 - Tom
“Muscles aching to work, minds aching to create - this is man.”
― John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath

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« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2004, 01:31:57 PM »
One of the things about freedom of choice is that we have the freedom to buy or not buy whatever we are able to afford.  I choose to spent my dimes on Alembic because for me, they're the finest instruments available at any price.  I feel that way because of my experiences I've had with them.  Also, I realize that it is impossible to please everyone, hence the multitude of high end instruments availble.
 
That being said, I find it difficult to paint anything with as broad a brush as Paul seems comfortable with.  Hey Paul, I'm sorry that you've had such an unpleasant experience with Alembic.  I guess you're the exception that proves the rule.  
 
Take care,
Play well

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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2004, 01:41:21 PM »
Hey huys ...did I miss all the fun???
Do we have a new Paul??
 
 
Paul the capital one!!!!
Welcome ...welcome!  
 
 
I think no one of us will deny that Alembic guitars -the basses and the other thin stringed appendices- are expensive.
As far as I can speak after playing a bunch of basses: the Alembics I tried were worth the money. BEWARE it is NOT RATIONAL. I said before: there is no RAESONABLE (where the ratio = intellect) argument for buying an Alembic of 18K $. Although I am convinced that everybody here in this club can invent 10 EMOTIONAL arguments why he loves to play her/his Alembic. On that moment a price evaluation becomes VERY ...huh ...tricky (I dunno if that's good English).
BTW ...it workes in two directions: personally I have no REASONABLE argument to keep Broomstick (=my crappy Korean Squier Jazz bass, sounding as a broomstick on a washthub) but , for one or another emotional thing I am hooked onto that piece of wood.
I payed 100$!!
 
Oh well ...I am glad someone brought up some messy Alembic stuff in this hail-and-glory choir of low frequency addicts.
Hehehe ...if we keep on communicating like this ....this world would be a better place
 
 
Paul the bad one
 

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« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2004, 01:51:09 PM »
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« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2004, 03:25:13 PM »
Welcome Paul the capital one.
Sorry to hear about your problems.
 
Gary

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« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2004, 04:27:53 PM »
Paul,
 
   As someone who currently owns ten bass guitars of various makes (two Alembics, one Pedulla, two Gibsons, two Fenders, one Rickenbacker, one Musicman, and one Ovation Acoustic Electric), I think I can say with honesty that Alembics are the finest I've ever owned, period.  And my string of choice is Rotosound RS66LC, .40-95.  I use them on my Europa with no buzzing, and no problems.  I do use (currently, anyway) GHS .40-100 on my Spyder, simply because they fit (they sound fairly good, but I prefer Rotosound).  In both cases, my basses adjusted to the different string tension with no problem.  I second Mica's assertion that the most recent Alembics take into account the preference on some players' part for lighter gauge strings.  BTW, my Spyder is a 2003, as is my Europa.
 
I've never ordered a bass from Alembic (I was lucky and someone had exactly what I was looking for), so I can't comment on how long it takes to make one.  However, there is ample evidence that Alembic is anything but mass-produced-production-line-fast.  Why?  It takes time to build instruments with the exact tolerances that Alembics have.  As I said, I have lots of different basses, some expensive, some not so expensive, and others downright cheap.  The Alembics, in terms of quality and craftsmanship, stand head and shoulders above them all.
 
One other thing ... my Europa had a problem with the pan pot.  Seems it didn't work.  One might say, well, for that kind of money, it should, and I would agree.  But we've all bought a car for a substantial amount of money, and there is always something that isn't quite right.  That is the nature of things created by humans - they have the potential of being slightly imperfect.
 
Anyway, Mica sent me one set of electronics, but the jack wasn't the correct one (they upgraded the jacks they use to a higher quality one - imagine that!).  When I pointed this out, within a week I had a new set of electronics.  I've not had the chance to install them (yes, you can do that yourself since it is modular - try doing that with a Fender, a Gibson, etc.), but I'm sure it will be fine.
 
You pay for more than just an instrument when you buy an Alembic - you pay for commitment, pride, and art.  If that's not your thing, that's cool.  Wish it had all worked out for you, and I hope you give Alembic another try.  My guess is you won't be disappointed.  For my part, I am an enthusiastic Alembic owner and supporter of the company.  Sure, it's expensive, but you get what you pay for - commitment, pride, and art.  And that's something you can't always put a price on.
 
My two cents,
 
Alan

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« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2004, 04:32:06 PM »
Paul the bad one:
 
  Paul the capital one literally had me laughing out loud at my desk.  If humor awards are ever given out on this site, you will definitely be in the finals.
 
Bill, the guitar one

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« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2004, 04:46:24 PM »
I love all my children. I ordered 6 out of 10 and the 11th was just put in. I orderd them sight unseen including a used Distillate from Santa Rosa. The factory to customer is a fantastic tool for gearheads despite the extra work that it creates for Mica et.all. I have several models from low to midprice. No 1's or 2's yet. They all surpass the non Alembics I own, Rick, Gibson, Ovation. When a custom ordered spoiler 6 w/ initials was not quite what I wanted, it was accepted back and a new one made with tremendous skill. The former went on tour with Enrique Eglesias. I have waited as long as 14 months (I think). But when the basses arrived I was pleased as punch! (also growl, slap, twang etc.) No one likes to have to pay more for something but it is a necessary evil. It has pushed me to make an order more than once which I have never regreted. Again I wish for great health, wealth and success to all who wish to own these instruments.
Danno

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« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2004, 05:13:49 PM »
Slacker42uk, It's Rolls Royce.  Aren't you from England?  I am a Rolls Royce/Bentley freak too, btw.
 
I have heard that the folks in your neck of the woods use lighter gauge strings.  I do too sometimes!  I have had no problems with adjusting my basses to accept the lighter gauge strings.  Sorry to hear you had so much trouble with your basses.  If you lived near where I am, I would have graciously done a set up on your bass just to have the chance to gawk at it.
 
Michael

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« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2004, 05:18:07 PM »
Bill; what had me rolling on the floor was when Paul the Belgian one remarked, I am glad someone brought up some messy Alembic stuff in this hail-and-glory choir of low frequency addicts.