Which cabinets are you using?

[frank_orlando]

I have been a big Ampeg fan for years. I use an SVT410HE and an SVT15E stacked and powered by an SVT3Pro. I have 2 of these complete set-ups one for gigs and one for practice so I don't have to move my practice set when I gig. I like the bright and punchy sound these cabs provide compared to the bassy Ampeg BXT's or the PRO series. I also have an SVT410HLF and an SVTII which I use when I get the bug or need some extra thump. I am playing with an original rock band (www.mediacrime.com) with a sound that could be described as Neil Young jamming the Ramones. No slapping either.    
 
Now I am hearing more and more about Eden, Bergantino, Bag End, Aguilar, EBS and other high end cabinets but I don't see them for sale in the big music chain stores. I don't ever want to buy a cabinet again without playing it with my own bass (Alembic of course)and amp. I did that once with an Ampeg BXT 15HL4 and when I got it I hated the heavy mid sound it had and sold it. Another concern is that cabinets sound different playing alone in a music store than they do on stage with the band. I know the Ampegs sound great on stage.  
 
Maybe I can learn something about the other brands here before I spend the time to find a shop that carries them. I noticed that some cabinets like the Eden's cost about twice as much as a comparable Ampeg cabinet. So what cabinets are you using and why? What cabinets have you compared them to and what was the difference? What kind of music are you playing with them?  
 
Frank...

[frank_orlando]

That should have said ...Neil Young jamming WITH the Ramones. HeHe.

[dannobasso]

I'm using Acme B210 and B410 (4 ohm)and Epifani T310 (5.3 ohm) and T115 (8 ohm). F1X - Korg tuner - QSC PLX 3400 and 1602. Playing heavy dark punk with Doomtree. High fidelity, clear sound, high power rating, good construction, reliable. Great matches with Alembics. Excel 5's dual fatboys, Distillate 5 as well as SC, Various Spoilers. My ear is tuned to tone deep and crisp. Other cabs are midrangey and can't go as loud as I want. My main stack is about 1200 watts a side. Not impressed with Edens at all. A friend reps Aguilar, he likes em' and endorses Fodera. Acmes are very reasonable. A lot of guys here have them and love them. I prefer the Epifani but they are really expensive.If they go down I need back ups.
Danno

[hup]

Hey Frank  
I to use ampeg 2 X SVT410HE love the punch out of these boxes, i use sn ampeg b2r head to power them, and i set them side by side to get that extra bottom end and it kiks ass, a few friends have tried some edens, ashdown, and they keep going back to the mighty ampeg, i play in an all original band that can be heard at www.songramp.com   band name is White Iris check it out and please post a reveiw. I use an Alembic Spoiler 5 string as the work horse!!!!!!!!!!!
 
(Message edited by Hup on June 07, 2004)

[811952]

Mostly using a Dr. Fong 18 (like the big Yamaha sub) and a Peavey 210.  Other times one or two Carvin 18 folded horns for that Jaco tone.
John

[lbanks]

Mostly, an Acme B2, if I can get away with...

[rami]

I'm a huge fan of Eden amps and cabinets.  Sorry Danno, I couldn't disagree with you more.  I love the response and punch my Eden D410XLT cabinet delivers.  It has a super crisp, deep, earth rattling rumble that I have yet to see matched by anybody else.  I'm also planning to pick up the new D410XST, which has an even wider frequency response (36Hz - 14KHz).  Combine THAT with an Ebony neck Alembic and feel the fundamental.
Why are Eden cabinets more expensive?  Like Alembic Basses, you get what you pay for - Quality.

[lowlife]

I have a Carvin RC210 (R600 head w/2x10), then I added a Carvin RL115 (1x15).  In bi-amped mode, full range mode or in bridged mode, the Carvin stack cannot even come close to the punch that my mini Eden stack puts out.  Eden CXC110 (Time Traveller head w/1x10) and a Eden CX112 (1x12).  It's half the size, half the power, and it packs a whollop when I slap.
I've also compared this mini eden stack to Ampeg's of similar component designs and to my ears, it's Eden all the way.
I agree with Rami, that you get what you pay for,
Ellery (Lowlife)

[rklisme]

I have to chime in for Eden as well. I have used Eden for many years and feel they have it right as far as my ears are concerned. However gentlemen I don't want to start a hate group for one product over another! I think we will all agree that everybody has different styles they play and different tones that they listen for which doesn't make one good and another bad, just different. As bass players we have chosen one of the most versatile basses on this planet you could ever play and I would venture to say we all don't have the same tone or even like the same styles. What sounds good to me may or may not sound good to you! I have heard bass players play on all types of equipment and have enjoyed their performances and their sound. While I am passionate about my equipment I have plenty of room to listen to what you have to offer as a fellow player! If we all played the same rig or the same bass or the same style I think playing the bass would be pretty boring!  
 
Bottoms Up
Rory

[pookeymp]

The rig that I leave at my Church is an SWR Goliath III (4x10) cab, on top of a Carvin (1x18).
 
Gigs on the road I use either an Acme B2 (2x10), an Acme B4 (4x10), or I use them together...depending on size of venue.
 
All of my cabs are 4 ohms and I power both these rigs with an Ampeg SVP Preamp and a QSC PLX3402 power amp.
 
Mikey/

[dean_m]

Hey Frank,
 
I too am a BIG Ampeg fan for many years.  My old set up was an SVT-CL with 2 SVT 410HE.  Most of the time I'd only use one cab though.  I love the sound of these cabs, the only problem though is that they don't project or fill a room without PA support.  The bottom falls off at about 10feet.  I now use all PortaBass stuff just because it's so light and easy to move.  I've got a PB250 and a B5R for powering two of the Portabass cabs.  I still use my SVT-CL every now and then with an SVT810.  That is a monster sound!!!!
 
Peace,
Dino

[the_mule]

HARTKE 2100 Pro cabinet (2x10, aluminium cones, horn) with a HARTKE HA 1400 top...

[dela217]

I use a Bag End 2x10 cabinet.  I ordered it in 2000, and have been using it full time ever since.  When I ordered it, I asked for their 2x10, not knowing the different model numbers.  What I got was a D10BX-C.  I don't see it listed on their site as an available model.  I think the C stands for custom.  It is just like their Deep Red series, but it is in black!!  It is pretty cool.  I wouldn't mind another one, but this one is plenty.  I have a QSC 1450RMX (I think that is what it is called) bridged to mono powering it.  I either use my Furman PQ-3, or an Alembic preamp depending on the sound I am after, or the bass I am using.  I really like the Bag End, and am surprised how well it is holding up.  I have blown up EV 15's in Mesa Boogie cabinets with the same amount of power.  Go figure.  The cabinet is VERY efficient, and is rated at 4 ohms.  I highly recommed it.  The only thing I don't really like about it is the carpet covering.  I just don't care for carpet on my cabinets.  The cabinet is rear ported, which took some getting used to.  You have to be mindful of back walls, drum mics, etc...  But a good cab.  I will be using it tonight.  I have a gig with a band called Seven Stories.  It is my first gig with them and hopefully not the last.

[frank_orlando]

Thanks for all of the valuable feedback. I wasn't even considering Acme but I will add it to my list of cabinets to check out.  
 
I agree that you do get what you pay for and I can normally buy what I want (within reason) but I hope I find a flaw with the Eden's when I try them since I will need about $3000 worth of cabinets to duplicate my gig and practice rigs!!  
 
Hup... I couldn't find White Iris on that site you gave me. I used the search too. Let me know if I am doing something wrong. I want to check your band out.  
 
Here's my rig at Hogs and Heifers in NYC (uptown).
Too bad that fat guy is standing in front of it...
 
 

[hollis]

It looks like the big guy belongs there from here....