Author Topic: Emergency Bass Rig (Read 1193 times)

slawie · « **Reply #30 on:** March 10, 2013, 09:03:37 PM »

And here is the big one. I can use in any combination and configuration depending on the room. 210, 212, 210+212, 212+212, 210+212+212.
slawie

jazzyvee · « **Reply #31 on:** March 11, 2013, 04:28:24 AM »

What are you hanging your bass off at the side of the cab?
Jazzyvee

811952 · « **Reply #32 on:** March 11, 2013, 12:05:12 PM »

Slawie, I love your rig!

John

slawie · « **Reply #33 on:** March 11, 2013, 02:48:58 PM »

Jazzy,
That is my patented;
Slawie Hanging Instrument Tool 3000

cozmik_cowboy · « **Reply #34 on:** March 11, 2013, 04:04:23 PM »

Very cool! And as a soundman, allow me to state that I've seen few things prettier than that plexaglass-in-front-of-the-Marshall trick.

Peter

growlypants · « **Reply #35 on:** March 11, 2013, 04:21:23 PM »

I was JUST going to say.....!

nnek · « **Reply #36 on:** March 11, 2013, 05:46:01 PM »

Tiny rig for my upright with a Fishman BP100 on the bridge and a sure SM98 on a boom inside the bass.

If it wern't for the upright it would only be one trip. The pre amp below the F2B is for the SM98's power supply... plus extra warm tubeiness

5a_quilt_top · « **Reply #37 on:** March 25, 2013, 08:49:32 AM »

Here's what I used Saturday night for an outdoor gig with a fairly large stage:

QSC K-12 1,000 watt (2,000 peak) powered monitor w/horn and 12" driver. Weighs about 40 lbs. Here's the full rig:

SKB pedalboard from left to right: Sansamp Bass Driver Deluxe, Boss Chorus, Boss Tuner, Ernie Ball Volume Pedal and Dunlop Bass Wah. All cables are George L. And Music Man Sting Ray Classic 5 (soon to be replaced by EUROPA 5). The XLR output from the Bass Driver fed the PA mixer and the 1/4" output fed the input on the QSC monitor. Volume on QSC was about 1/2 of full volume.

oddmetersam · « **Reply #38 on:** March 25, 2013, 02:59:03 PM »

Looks (and I'm sure, sounds) like a great set-up.

5a_quilt_top · « **Reply #39 on:** March 25, 2013, 04:37:11 PM »

It got the job done, but I'll be honest, this rig by itself was probably just a bit too small for the size of the stage (about 25' wide by 10' deep). Fortunately, the stage was partially enclosed in the back, so that helped contain the sound and throw it out to the audience.

I ran the QSC volume at about half of the max. and I probably could have pushed it a little harder, but I didn't want to get greedy. Overall sound quality was quite good after I dialed back the output from the Bass Driver a bit.

In hindsight, I probably should have used a traditional amp & cab for this gig, but I wanted to push the envelope a bit which allowed me to confirm that this small rig will certainly be more than enough to use indoors or on a smaller outdoor stage.

And, I was encouraged enough by the QSC's performance with the bass that I'm going to use it along with an LR Baggs DI for my next acoustic guitar gig. I tried it at home yesterday for the first time and it killed. Crystal clear sound with a ton of headroom.

rustyg61 · « **Reply #40 on:** May 06, 2013, 11:41:29 PM »

I have been on a quest for a good sounding combo amp to use on small gigs where my Eden stack is too much. I tried TC Electronics, GK, Ampeg, Acoustic, & Mark Bass & none of them had the sound I was looking for, which was tight low end punch with good clarity & enough wattage to compete with acoustic drums & 2 guitar players with loud amps. They all had their plusses, but none had it all. I really wanted something I could kick back like a monitor so the soundman didn't have to deal with stage sound from me at all in the smaller venues. Most of the amps I tried had decent bottom end when they were flat on the floor but had poor clarity & sounded muddy. When you tilt them back they have great clarity but lost all the bottom end. I went to 2 different Guitar Centers a half dozen times trying out different amps only to be disappointed. It was fun bringing my Alembic though, it always drew a crowd with lots of questions! I was down to my last amp I wanted to try which was an Acoustic B450mkII. I had played through the same head into a 6X10 cabinet & it sounded great so I was hopeful the 2X10 combo would have a similar sound, but once again I was disappointed. It had amazing clarity & plenty of power, but lacked the bottom end I wanted even when it was sitting flat on the floor. Before I left, I looked over at a Fender Rumble 350 which I had seen every time, but never tried it because I thought Fender bass amps were for country bands & flatwound basses. Boy, was I wrong!!! This amp sounds amazing! It has the tight, full bottom & incredible clarity too, & that was with the bass knob at about 2:00, so plenty of more low end in reserve! One thing it has that none of the others had was that it has punch & clarity sitting straight up with me standing 4-5' away which is about where I stand at the smaller venues we play. Our next gig is one of the small venues so I can't wait to try it out with the band! If you have never played on one of these, I highly recommend it! It has removeable casters which make it easy to move around & it doesn't loose any bottom end being raised off the floor on the casters. I ordered a tilt back stand for it so I can set it up like a monitor, but it may be just as effective standing up facing sideways beside the drum kit. It weighs 65 pounds which is much heavier than the TC & GK, but it has handles on each side so you pick it up with both hands, not one like the TC & GK, & the weight feels about the same.

http://www.fender.com/series/rumble/rumble-350-combo/

5a_quilt_top · « **Reply #41 on:** May 07, 2013, 08:16:43 AM »

Yup.

We sell these at the small guitar store where I work on Saturdays.

One of the best-kept secrets in the world of bass gear.

Good value for the $$.

rustyg61 · « **Reply #42 on:** May 07, 2013, 03:24:02 PM »

I traded in a 12 year old Hartke Kickback 15, & got the Fender for less than $300, so it was a great value for the $$!

hb3 · « **Reply #43 on:** May 07, 2013, 06:03:38 PM »

Sam...I would've loved to've heard that improvised drum 'n bass duet!

hb3 · « **Reply #44 on:** May 08, 2013, 07:14:58 AM »

I may as well add my thoughts to the topic...I'm using a Genz-Benz Shuttle 6 and it sounds great (for what it is). My usual rig has been an Aguilar monster system with the now out-of-production tube power amp and the tube pre. It's always had a problem that I tried to get corrected when I first got it (over ten years ago), and it seems like it's gotten worse -- a subtle distortion laying over the notes as they sustain...kind of like a rattling snare drum when a frequency is rattling the snare mechanism. This is particularly bad when I'm playing piccolo bass with reverb and delay. And I don't know whether to even try to have this fixed again, considering that last time we swapped out the tubes and it didn't seem to make much difference. I think they said the tubes had become microphonic, and this is why it was picking up and amplifying this weird sound.

So I'm pretty much playing the Genz Benz out of necessity. I'm thinking of picking up a second neodymium cabinet for it. The piccolo bass actually sounds pretty good through it -- the regular Alembic 4 string not as good.

But it's simply no comparison to the giant (and incredibly heavy) Aguilar rig.

Quandary. I'll probably keep the Genz for small gigs anyway, but....

Any tube experts out there?