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ed_zeppelin

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Re: The lowdown on the hoedown that's goin' down in sound town
« Reply #90 on: February 07, 2016, 08:56:10 AM »
Thank you for conducting the autopsy in public. It's like Cletus meets Salvador Dali. The funny thing is that I noticed that the pickup pole pieces didn't line up, but it wrote that off to the wonky positioning of the Floyd.  
 
You can see the routing for the old bridge glaring out from the north side, and having seen the same thing umpteen times before when future rock stars yanked Strat wiggle sticks out of their Kramers and dropped Floyds in (Strat bridges have a bigger footprint), I kinda got hung up on that particular aspect of the crime scene.
 
It never occurred to me to move the pickups, since if I was to do anything to that beast it would be to finalize the divorce from Floyd, but I wouldn't even do that because I thought that was part of its charm.
 
The block of epoxy with wires and switches sticking out of it - and a butterfly band-aid, for apparently no good reason whatsoever - belongs in a museum. Perhaps a Dangers of Meth display or something.  
 
I found a wasp nest in an Ibanez once (honest, the work order said making a buzzing sound), which had been - until now - the weirdest thing I've ever seen come out of a guitar. Yes, the SPST switch epoxy pudding pop with an owee tops 'em all. This is a great moment in Cletus history, if only because it memorializes the anonymous doofus who obviously didn't have much faith in his soldering skills. I know, I'll bury it in a block of epoxy and put a band-aid on it, just in case the block of epoxy disintegrates at high volume!
 
Y'know, flawed genius that James M. Call Me 'Jimi' Lewis was when he cobbled together that guitar, until you showed us the innards, I had blamed an unknown perp for the most egregious insults on that instrument (the Floyd was the dead giveaway, since I figgered it had a stock Strat bridge originally).  
 
But now that I see that Jimi Lewis didn't even bother to blow the dust out of the control cavity before swabbing shielding paint in there (I assume that's what it is, though I secretly hope it's house paint, in keeping with Cletus tradition), I'm beginning to suspect the pickups and wiring are original.  
 
It's hard to tell, since from a Guitar CSI point of view it's like trying to investigate a victim who's been murdered multiple times, with at least one of the perps displaying a shred of remorse by returning to the scene to put band aids on the corpse.
 
It makes me want to buy a Michael Bolton CD and start a Howl along with Michael Bolton Nite at a local bar. Crank my old Epiphone amp up to 11 and recreate the opening scene of Back To The Future, then do some SERIOUS Van Halen-esque dive-bombing during the part of When A Man Does A Woman where it sounds like Mike sprayed contact cleaner on his vocal cords.
 
Careful with that axe, Eugene.

elwoodblue

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Re: The lowdown on the hoedown that's goin' down in sound town
« Reply #91 on: February 09, 2016, 07:47:46 PM »
One of these days...
 
It doesn't taste like house paint : )
I figured the pickups were 70's fender miscellania, but I just don't know after seeing the underside
(I'll post pics,maybe you know what they are).  
 
 I have these old crimson seymours that would look at home here...we'll see how the new pickup configuration works first.
 
 Gonna have to cut into the epoxicle..I'll be careful ;)

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Re: The lowdown on the hoedown that's goin' down in sound town
« Reply #92 on: February 15, 2016, 03:28:51 AM »
I dig this headstock,
 


 
 
 It reminds me of rayon geometric disco shirts I've become nostalgic for:
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Re: The lowdown on the hoedown that's goin' down in sound town
« Reply #93 on: February 15, 2016, 06:37:15 AM »
I saw this the other day and thought of this thread. Ride 'em cowboy!
 

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Re: The lowdown on the hoedown that's goin' down in sound town
« Reply #94 on: February 29, 2016, 11:05:13 PM »
DO NOT EVEN TRY TO CUT INTO THE EPOXY, it won't work; trust me I've tried to do such things and it never works...there is stuff out there that will dissolve epoxy (jeweller's stuff that I can't remember the brand name) but it's SOOO TOXIC a mere whiff smells like brain damage...seriously, I've actually used the stuff and a mere whiff made me see BLACK STARS in front of my eyes; so toxic, and you have to burp the can sometimes...won't use that stuff again...Tony

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Re: The lowdown on the hoedown that's goin' down in sound town
« Reply #95 on: February 29, 2016, 11:26:47 PM »
Eww, sounds like drool of BrundleFly.
 This stuff is softer than a hard cured epoxy...
more like ballistics gel. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a bullet in there ;).
 Unless Forest convinces me otherwise, I think I'll make a stompbox from the active filter since it's not dependable enough to gig or record with. Then I can just leave the old switch on and put a new one in line to use.
 Thanks for the caveat Tony.

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Re: The lowdown on the hoedown that's goin' down in sound town
« Reply #96 on: March 01, 2016, 12:38:45 AM »
It's probably worse than BrundleFly; thankfully I never got it on my skin as I have been trained in using evil compounds but even every brush I used with the stuff dissolved...ok, so this stuff will dissolve a squirell...

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Re: The lowdown on the hoedown that's goin' down in sound town
« Reply #97 on: March 01, 2016, 05:59:29 AM »
quote:more like ballistics gel.
 
That explains the band-aid.
 
No, it really doesn't. Nothing that I can see explains the band-aid, except possibly drugs. I had one of those Who's On First? arguments going on in my skull:
 
Why a band-aid? To secure the wires to the carefully-molded epoxy-ish ballistics gel block!  
 
Okay, why the carefully-molded epoxy-ish ballistics gel block? To secure the wires and the SPST switch in an epoxy pudding pop!  
 
Why not use solder, like everybody else? Because he could carefully create a mold, stick the switch and wires in it and pour god-knows-what in it and hold it steady until Wheel of Fortune was over, and that would hold it much better than the solder everybody else uses!  
 
Okay, then why the band-aid? ...
 
By running this never-ending conundrum over and over through my warped brane, I think I may have arrived at a possible tentative guess. I was listening to a Richard Pryor CD and heard him say; I'm not addicted to cocaine. I just like the way it smells!
 
It's the smell! What we assume is epoxy is actually Ellie May's gravy. (Funny you mentioned squirrel, too!) Jethro done used it to war a git-tar, then put a band-aid on it to try to contain the smell!  
 
Shoot. That ain't it. I just don't know. Back to the drugs theory.
 
Here's a guitar made with roadkill. Speaking of smells ...
 

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Re: The lowdown on the hoedown that's goin' down in sound town
« Reply #98 on: March 01, 2016, 07:50:09 AM »
I'm glad they went with steel strings.

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Re: The lowdown on the hoedown that's goin' down in sound town
« Reply #99 on: March 01, 2016, 12:43:19 PM »
That picture came with no story, so we're in the same boat there. But I take it that you're suggesting they killed it with the guitar? If so, I'll bet it was an early 80's Kramer Barreta, because everybody was glued to MTV 24/7, watchin' hair-bands and getting makeup tips from morticians and stuff. (Not me, of course.)  
 
Then Eddie Van Halen endorsed Kramer and overnight, they sold a zillion of the cursed things. Up 'til then, he had played a homemade contraption made up of Boogie Bodies (remember them?) and Chandler necks, painted with Schwinn bicycle paint and electrical tape. He was only using one pickup, but he had pickup covers on the front two cavities so nobody could cop his tone. So the Kramer endorsement was a big deal at the time.
 
That's where my loathing of original Floyd Rose(s?) wiggle-sticks comes from. [shudder] my point is that those guys would have done that to some poor animal. I can't think of anybody else who would, though.  
 
Kramers were cheap spankin' planks. They started out with aluminum necks, didja know that? Either Kramer or Travis Bean (our Jerry reference, with reverence) supplied aluminum necks for the other.  
 
I like to think of this as a pre-derailed thread anyway, which brings up a completely different topic for no apparent reason.
 
I consider this 1947 Stromberg Master 400 to be a true masterpiece, worthy of inclusion into this fine assemblage of all things Alembic.  
 
Take your time. Don't forget to breathe. I'm going to go look again myself. I've been doing that for about a week now. Ask Greg.
 
 
 
I love the obvious Alembic thing on the back of the neck. So elegant it almost hurts, y'know what I mean? It's so perfect it makes your fingers itchy. And that strap button? That is absolutely unique. I've never seen that anywhere else.  
 
It's unfortunate that Elmer Stromberg's own hand built instruments suffered from a batch of bogus varnish that degraded quickly. The most obvious place is the headstock, so it's rare to see one that hasn't been refinished. Odd that he used a completely different finish elsewhere, though. Like the rest of the neck, for instance. That's the only flaw I spotted, and then only because I read about it somewhere.  
 
It's pretty apparent what kind of women Elmer liked walking behind, if you follow my drift.  
 


 
 
Gibson, Epiphone, Stromberg and especially D'Angelico duked it out over the little-known or understood postwar Big Butt Guitar War. Gibson came out with the outrageously widebody Super 400 with 19-inch lower bouts. Epiphone topped 'em - and themselves - with the 20-inch Emperor Zephyr Regent. I consider that the most badass guitar ever. Check out the three DeArmonds and 6-button Bakelite Masterbilt Switching System.  
 
John D'Angelico made the New Yorker (the one on the left was George Benson's. Note the same issue with the faceplate as Stromberg.)
 
Here's a superb 1947 D'Angelico New Yorker (with comparatively modest 18-inch caboose) at the National Music Museum. Click the pics to get the centerfold shots. You'll just have to imagine the staples, though.
 


 
 
Hey gorgeous! Nice to see yer back! Woo hoo!
 
Here's what a Stromberg G-7 sounds like. I think it sounds almost exactly like Gene Krupa's snare, with brushes. (And If that sprightly tune don't slap a goofy grin on your grumpy mug, well ... you're probably Scottish. Ha ha.)

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Re: The lowdown on the hoedown that's goin' down in sound town
« Reply #100 on: March 01, 2016, 09:35:59 PM »
I just now discovered a Stromberg banjo at the National Music Museum made by Elmer thirty years before that Master 400 in the previous post, that I want to share with you.
 
You can scroll down and click on the skinny pics to get hi-def details of each section. And just wait 'til you get a load of the case.
 


 
 
A banjo player showing off? Imagine that.

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Re: The lowdown on the hoedown that's goin' down in sound town
« Reply #101 on: March 02, 2016, 03:03:34 AM »
Dang!
Love that colored marquetry.
 
I've decided to find a glass display box, wired with input/output jacks and a switch...and some soft indirect lighting...I'll use LEDs so the band-aid won't off-gas too quickly. What's the half life of a band-aid smell? The glass should preserve it for future generations...maybe they can clone James  
 
re: the roadkill ax, GUT strings was what I was (and still am) trying to avoid.
 Thanks for those museum links!

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Re: The lowdown on the hoedown that's goin' down in sound town
« Reply #102 on: March 09, 2016, 10:40:35 AM »
Thought I?d share this around our little circle folks who admire fine woodworking skills, especially when applied to musical instruments?
 
This fiddle belongs to a friend of mine? it was made (approx. 25 years ago) by a local violin/fiddle maker by the name of Arthur Conner who?s home and shop is in nearby Copper Hill, Virginia. I forget how many instruments he?s made to date, but they?re quite revered, with several players of renown using them. I know of 4 upright basses he?s made, as well as a handful of cellos, but Mr. Conner is primarily known for his fiddles. Some of them, like this one, have fancy carved headstocks instead of scrolls. This one also happens to be a 5-string fiddle, the low-C tuning  giving the player access to a viola?s range. Note also, how the f-holes and corners are cut, as this is often a characteristic maker's mark.
 


 
 


 
 


 
 


 
 


 
 
 
Here?s an article about him from a couple years ago, written after what must have been quite a humorous interview:  
 
http://sip-trunking.tmcnet.com/news/2010/03/21/4683132.htm

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Re: The lowdown on the hoedown that's goin' down in sound town
« Reply #103 on: March 16, 2016, 01:38:52 PM »
The bass embedded in the works is brilliant!
marble music machine

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Re: The lowdown on the hoedown that's goin' down in sound town
« Reply #104 on: March 22, 2016, 12:23:45 PM »
Here's the first one (watch it all the way through, even if you've seen it before. It'll be worth it).
 
http://youtu.be/Xu-A0jqMPd8
 
This is why:
 
http://youtu.be/PCIkbr9HCcw
 
Cletus wants to do something similar with a paintball gun and some Fisher-Price toy xylophones (I'm going to sneak up behind him with a cattle prod, to add vocals.) Maybe we can start a Michael Bolton tribute band!