Author Topic: Greetings from the Mid-West  (Read 653 times)

J B Faires (keebler)

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Greetings from the Mid-West
« on: March 21, 2003, 02:25:37 PM »
Hello Alembic Club members!  
I've been playing bass in bands for 14 years. About four years ago, I was practicing with the guys when my wife showed up to give me an early X-mas present. Imagine how extatic I was to open the case and find an Alembic Spoiler! (here in the mid-west, we'd call her a keeper!)
I am currently working towards a Masters in Music Performance at Eastern Illinois University while playing in bands ranging from jazz, to funk/rock/R&B, to bluegrass. (I'll post some pics of my 84 Spoiler as soon as I can get the image size down a little)
Peace to you all,
JB

Paul Ellsworth (elzie)

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Greetings from the Mid-West
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2003, 05:14:08 PM »
Welcome JB!
 
We really need to get your wife and my wife to talk.........
 
Paul (the good one)

Paul Lindemans (palembic)

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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2003, 11:55:17 PM »
Hi JB,
 
welcome to the club.
I'll bring my wife to that meeting too!
For one or another reason I knew the good one would react this way (he has the same sense of humour I guess).
Paul (the bad one)
 
PS: hey ... we need an ugly one to make our trio complete. Any Paul available?

Dino Monoxelos (dean_m)

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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2003, 07:35:52 AM »
Well,
 
I suppose I could change my name to Paul.  I'd certainly fit the ugly description.  HA!!
Welcome to the club JB!!!  Hey are you familiar with a bass player by the name Chris Clemente, plays with Kick The Cat and Amazing Headgear?  He's a friend of mine in your area.  Great player too!

J B Faires (keebler)

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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2003, 09:35:39 AM »
Thanks for the welcome,
 
I've never been to Europe, so if we have this meeting I vote for Paul's hometown (the bad one)! I hear those Belgian monks have a few years experience brewing some tasty ales. . .
The name Chris Clemente sounds familiar, but I don't recognize the band names. Might have heard of him while hanging at Guitar Center in Villa Park?

Dino Monoxelos (dean_m)

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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2003, 02:39:09 PM »
Uh Oh!!!!
You just brought up my favorite subject other than motorcycles and basses!!!  BEER!!!!
I just had a couple of  Paul's native brews this weekend.  Paul, what do you know about Chimay.  I thought is was very good.

Paul Lindemans (palembic)

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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2003, 12:54:09 AM »
Brother Dino and brothers and sisters,  
   
I propose we call Dino: Brother Paul -The fake one LOL!!!  
Chimay is also one of my favourites. It's a beer that is more reddish as color.  
About that monk thing.  
Hm-hm - here comes some beer lessons from Brother Paul the Bad one. So good, fake and (candidates?) ugly listen up.  
   
In Belgium and all over the world you'll find: Abdijbier litterally translated meaning: Beer of an Abbey. Most of the time those beers are brewed by small or large industrial breweries and having nothing to do with an Abbey. In the best case the beer is brewed following an original (Abby) beer recepy.  
Leffe is one of those highly popular Abbey-beers having nothing to do with an Abbey anymore.  You also have Grimbergen, Affligem. But on those places there ARE actually more or less famous Abbeys. The beer is not brewed by those monks or in that Abbey but by an industrial brewery (I think it's the De Smedt brewery in Opwijk who makes Grimbergen and Affligem).
Beware -it's getting as complicate as the typename of Alembic guitars- there ARE small Abbeys (being NO TRAPPIST) who have their own beers but that is on really small local base. For instance in the Abbey of Val Dieu (Litterally: The Valley of God) they make an extremely good Abbey-beer, on very small base, only for sale in the neighboorhoud.
 
With a monk beer most of the time we mean beer made by Trappist monks. I don't remember the brand of those monks but (...) trappist were monks from the silent type.  
A monk beer (a trappist) MUST be brewed by monks, it's the law.  
There are only 6 trappist abbeys in the world, 5 of them are Belgian.  
The REAL monk beers (trappist) are:  
Westmalle (B)  
Westvleteren (B)  
Orval (B)  
Rochefort (B)  
Chimay (B)  
La Trappe (Nl)  
This last one -following may last info- lost the right to call it's beer Trappist  because there is no longer a monk  alive and involved in the brewing process.  
Take in mind that the name of the beer is also the name of the place in Belgium where it's brewed. So if you can imagine that Belgium is about the dimensions of New York ... you can visit all of them in some days.  
More easy: hop into a bar and start tasting. There are bars specialising (ever been to a bar with 320 types of Belgian beer???).  
   
The monk beers -yes Brother Paul the fake one also CHIMAY- comes in different strenghts: 8 - 10 - 12? alcohol.  
Most of the time it's clearly noted on the outside, we in Belgium we talk about a red, yellow or blue Rochefort = three strenghts of the beer.  
   
What else could I say?  
If you coming to Belgium, rent a car or a motorbike, and travel to Orval and its Abbey. It's a majestic place. It's very strange to see silence fill a space.  
Outside there is a busy caf?.  
BTW: Orval makes a very good cheese too!  
   
You can also celebrate the 4th of july here in Leuven: I have a gig in a Irish pub that night. We start with irish beers and go further on something belgian afterwards!  
   
Cheers brothers  
   
Paul  
   
PS: I think i'm gonna get Brother Paul (the fake one) over here: I have an Alembic, I'm from a brewery family and I know a place where I can rent a motorbike ... how's that sound? IN short: irrisitable!  
I even can provide decent food for the baby coming along!  
 
(Message edited by Palembic on March 25, 2003)
 
(Message edited by palembic on March 25, 2003)

Paul Ellsworth (elzie)

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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2003, 05:36:49 AM »
That is some great info Paul! I brew my own beer, so it is nice to get some info from one of the beer capitals of the world  
 
By the way, I will start brewing a Red Ale this week.
 
Paul (the newly enlightened one)

Paul Lindemans (palembic)

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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2003, 06:21:04 AM »
Brother Paul-the good one (who-is-enlighted-now-and-this-joke-can-runs-for years-this-way),
 
I read it somewhere that you are in the home-brewing business (now I understand why you were in trouble with the IRS - LOL).
Gosh .... beer-brewing. I guess it's as spectacular as building (breeding) basses.
I don't know THAT much about beer-making. My personal all-time favourite is still Duvel. It was one of the first strong Belgian beers exported to the US. That goes back to the 70ties I guess. It was imported by an Austin based company. I think it's more common in liquor-stores these days.
I know you Americans have a sweet taste. See if you can find the DARK Kasteelbier (Litterally: Beer of the Castle) on your side of the pond. It's very sweet (but -alas-)  also a fair heavy one.
Cheers
 
Paul (the drunken one)
 
PS: ssssssssshhhhhht brother Paul no one is hearing us here. Can you send me some bottles??huh???

Dino Monoxelos (dean_m)

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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2003, 06:33:10 AM »
WOW!!!!
 
Paul, thank you so much for that info.  That certainly answers a lot of questions.  My friend who bought the beer and I were trying to figure out what a Trappist Monk is.  I am forwarding this info to him right now.  See, I learned something new today!!!  Everything else is icing on the cake.
As far as coming to Belgium, how can I resist!!  Alembics, beer, motorcycles and good friends!!!  What could be better?  Paul, what is the nearest airport to you?  I might as well start pricing tix now.  This way, after my new baby is born, I can maybe come out, pending the approval of my boss(wife)  HA!!!
Talk soon,
 
Paul(the fake one)

Paul Lindemans (palembic)

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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2003, 06:53:59 AM »
Dino,
 
I couldn't find immediately what monk brand a Trappist is. Please you'll have to wait on that.
Airport?
Brussels Interantional Airport is on 30 km of my door. Some years ago there were direct flights from Boston to Brussels. Now the National Airway company changed policy. I don't if it still exists.
Schiphol (Amsterdam) is on 400km, the same for Paris.
Hick
 

J B Faires (keebler)

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« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2003, 09:09:04 AM »
I've had the Chimay red label before and I can attest to its greatness. A friend of mine brought back a bottle of Leffe for me last summer. He said it tasted much better over there straight out of the tap, but I thought it tasted pretty good. I didn't know it wasn't a real Trappist beer. . . Being of Scotch-Irish/Dutch/Swiss/English heritage, I have an affinity for fine drink. Unfortunately, American beers just don't cut it! (much like making love in a canoe):
I'll take a room temperature Guiness over a cold Budweiser any day!!!  
 
Anyway, I would love to do some playing over there. Is the music scene healthy and diverse in Europe right now? I'm in a situation where the band I'm in is really three bands in one. The keyboardist, guitarist, and I can all play jazz (standards and originals); the lead vocalist/guitarist/mandolinist, and I can play a mix of country and bluegrass; and all of us together with a drummer form a five-piece funk/R&B/rock and soul review (Steely Dan, Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, et.al.). Five guys, three bands. We could travel pretty cheaply. What are the clubs like in your neck of the woods? Do people enjoy originals as well as covers?
 
Peace,
JB

Paul Lindemans (palembic)

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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2003, 11:53:49 PM »
Hi JB,
 
sorry for the late answer to your questions.
I'm not a person to speak over the Europe scene. In fact there are very few people who can.
Let me explain.
You people -your side of the pond- speak about the US as 1 whole. I KNOW there are cultural differences between Boston and San Diego, between Florida and Helena but nevertheless US people tend to talk about 1 whole.
In EU everything is going on on a much (VERY MUCH) smaller base. I have not the faintest clue what musically is going on on the live music scene in France. Let alone that I know something about Finland.
In out teeny-weeny small part of EU I can give an opinion.
Live gigs are -for the moment slowing down a bit- at least that is what we and out band experience.
Generally spoken however there is a real tendency to go for more live gigs in smaller venues: bars for instance. People like to have a good time. I guess in US there is more a tradition of putting a live band in a bar than over here. Everything is SOOOO much SMALLER!! I don't say there is lesser quality but the market, the audience a sa group is very small.
So you say: go on the move and travel around with your band.
Well, there comes the thing EU being a want-to-be 1 whole but in fact styill having different countries.
For me the way to Holland is not that obvious.
Most of the audience would react kinda what are those guys doing here? We have bands that can do the same....
So ...only when you're VERY good you work abroad. Small amateur bands tend to stay even in our province or region.
Maybe a lack of ambition but also but things are sooo small. You have to understand: in 2 hours you cross the whole country.
Now for US bands coming EU it's something different.
I guess you have to contact touring organisations.
Alas ... I can't help you right now on that but will try if i can get the time and the right persons.
 
CU
 
Paul (the bad one)

J B Faires (keebler)

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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2003, 11:57:41 AM »
Thanks for the frank reply, Paul. I find it very interesting that European audiences enjoy our jazz music better than we on this side of the pond do. At least this has been the case for several decades. The audiences over here don't really want jazz in their face. They want it to be background, dinner-conversation music. Audiences in EU are passionate about it as an art form. Many of the best American jazz musicians end up spending most of their time gigging in EU and Canada.  
We play such a mix of every genera of music because you never know who you'll be entertaining. The point is for everyone to have a good time; the trick is to find what music facilitates that best!
 
PEACE,
JB

keebler

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Greetings from the Mid-West
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2003, 04:34:22 PM »
Hey, I've posted pics of my Spoiler in the Showcase section. She needs a little polish, but she still looks and sounds beautiful! Check it out!
 
JB