Speaker cabinet wiring

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I would also like to take advantage of the Biamp capabilities of the GK 800rb, and I'm playing with the idea of using a 2x12 cab loaded with bassy guitar speakers.
Any thoughts on this..?
Celestion also have splendid guitar elements:
http://celestion.com/product/25/heritage_series_g12h55/
http://celestion.com/product/19/g12k100/
are some examples.
 
Now one of them only has a watt rating of 30w. Now I'm walking on this ice when I enter the guitar world, so I don't know how much importance I should lay in that..

[JimmyJ]

I'm not an amp and speaker guy ... but I think that would work.  My small but loud rig has 2-EVM12L speakers which are supposed to be guitar speakers.  They sound pretty good to me at full range and work together to cover the bottom.
 
Also, the reason the High output of that amp is only 100w is because there is simply not as much power required as there is for the 'Low output.  For bass there is not as much information above 1khz as there is below, if you see what I mean.  And bigger waveforms (lower frequencies) take more juice...  I'm sure some speaker gurus will weigh in here but I would think the High output would be fine into a pair of those celestions...  And so would the Low at a reasonable volume.  For lower volume gigs you could just take the 2x12 and the head and I bet it would sound great.
 
If either of your basses work in stereo you should also try running two heads into your stereo cabinet with the pickups split left and right.  Since more fundamental comes from the neck pu and more overtones from the bridge pu it's almost like a natural crossover.  The sound may surprise you.
 
Have fun!
Jimmy J

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I totally agree Jimmy. Hence my idea of using a guitar cab.
I have a 73' series bass which I am building this rig for. Can't wait to try it out!
Kinda worried I will get lost in knobs and adjustments, but I'm sure I'll get the hang of it, and find some sweetspots.!

[elwoodblue]

I think you might be right about the G12H not having enough overhead, one of the things guitarists like about them is that they break up fairly easy.  
 I paired my 15 cab with an EVM12L and the highs were always crisp and it still had the mid punch.
I used the crossover on my F-1X at around 150 hz IIRC, (paired with an SF-2 to tune each cab somewhat and boost the low lows).
 
 My friend and speaker guru ( he goes by the moniker  Speakerguy ...LOL)  is currently building some EV 12's with magnets from EV 15's...I'm looking forward to hearing/playing with what he comes up with. (shameless plug: we have a pretty good inventory of old and new speakers in our warehouse)
 
 
 
 Elwood

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EV speakers come highly recommended it seems....?
 
Anyone done a comparison of EV and Celestion.?

[fmm]

I have EV-15L (2 1x15 cabinets) and EV 10L (a 2 x 10).  I love them.  I've had trhem since the 70s.

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EV don't have dedicated bass speakers though. It seems....

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So, Eminence it is then.. Can't find the celestions I want in 4 ohm. or 16 for that matter.
Eminence legend 200 watters should do the trick I'm sure.
Now to the guitar speakers.
I'm between the Eminence Swamp Thang or Tonker.
They're both supposed to be bassy speakers. They come with 150 watt capacity, and both have 102 dB sensitivity.
 
Man I hate having too many options, LOL.

[elwoodblue]

there are some EV's  that might work for you,  
e.g  
http://www.usspeaker.com/ev%20dl12x-1.htm
 
...but I see the prices for a new one are relatively high .I think your on the right track with Swamp Thing/Tonkers.  
 
here's an Eminence I've used with good success in my bass rigs, it held up well,sounded great ...even when I was a little mean to it  ; )
  http://www.usspeaker.com/DELTAPRO12-1.htm  
 
elwood
 
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Been looking at the freq./response charts of the various guitar elements now.. Why is it that they have an enormous dip around 1200-1500 Hz...?