Thanks, I had actually wanted a fretless 4 but this 5 is so smooth and fast, the neck ,I think, is actually thinner than my 4 (both Essences) so I'm hoping to get used to the extra width of the 5 (small hands). I really like it and it plays and sounds very nice but, who knows, I may eventually look for a fretless 4 too. Thx Agn, Videroo