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« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2005, 01:31:00 AM »
Beautiful bass Shaun:  the wood grain complements the triple-o body shape.
 
Regarding picture size:  this is determined by pixel dimensions.  Shrink your pics so the largest pixel dimension is 800 or so.
 
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« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2005, 04:56:18 AM »
And screen resolution is 72-96 pixels per inch, or maybe 35 pixels/centimeter.
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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2005, 12:58:36 AM »
Nice bass and another lovely piece of walnut, Alembic must get the very best of this wood as I didn't think such figuring existed with walnut.  regarding posting picture, you need to shrink below 150kb and then post one picture at a time.  Each post has a 150 limit, so the more pictures you add to a single post the smaller they will have to be.

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« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2005, 10:53:32 AM »
Minor clarification: the 150kb limit is per image. You can have as many as you like in a single post, as long as no single image exceeds the limit. (At least that's how it was in January, and I rather doubt that it has changed since.)

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« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2005, 06:47:09 AM »
Hi guys! Thanks for the advice and the generous comments. Hopefully if I can get bigger pics posted then you'll be able to see the grain even better, although the pics still won't do the wood justice; in reality it's as if you can see through different layers of the wood, like some sort of hologram.  
 
With regards to the pictures, I think all the images were somewhere around the 150k mark(some possibly slightly smaller ); Bob, I think the quality remained the same whilst I shrunk the size, which could be where I went wrong, but I'll mail some shots to Thomas to see what he can do with them (thanks for the offer Thomas BTW, I'll do as you suggested).  
 
With regards to the questions re the hum canceller, it is indeed a fully functioning humcanceller, but as it isn't wired up it is indeed just for cosmetic purposes; this may sound strange but having grown up in an era when all Alembics had a h/c, I felt it just wouldn't quite look finished to me without one (which is not to in any way say there's anything wrong with those basses which don't have it; it's just a little idiosyncrasy of mine!!!). And unfortunately I couldn't afford the series electronics....

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« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2005, 07:42:28 PM »
Testing:

 

  Lower the quality when shrinking?  Naw!  Well, the process of shrinking the picture does lower the quality a touch, as it has to interpolate the pixels.  But the quality loss is not very noticeable, really.  Wow, the wood on this bass is just outstanding!  More to come from Shaun, I'm sure.

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« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2005, 09:36:32 PM »
What an awesome piece of wood.
 
Nigel, just for the confused here, you really should explain how you accomplished this. Given that jpeg is a compressed format, I've found that 90% quality will often reduce the file size by around half, and be barely discernable.
 
Depends a lot on the image, of course, and the program and techniques you use - but you've done a great job, so tell us.

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« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2005, 11:31:55 AM »
Now THAT'S more like it! Wow!!!!!! Thomas, you are the man!!!! Many, many thanks!!!!  
 
BTW, I don't know if you sent anything back to me but we've been having a few problems both sending and receiving e-mails with any attachments bigger than a gnat's nose (pc is on it's last legs and is to be upgraded in the next few weeks to the Mac I mentioned in a much earlier thread); I'll try and send you some more pics if that's ok with you, although the way it's going I may have to send them one at a time. Any idea what I was doing wrong? I'd love to know how to put it right!!

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« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2005, 06:15:02 PM »
Second Set

 

  You could be right about this Bob.  I apologize for being so busy right now that I cannot go through and really investigate this.  However, first free block of time that comes up will be used to answer your question.

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« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2005, 02:49:44 PM »
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« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2005, 12:02:27 PM »
Thomas, thanks once again, you've done a fantastic job with the pics. Can't wait to hear how you did it.
 
All the best
 
Shaun

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« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2005, 05:33:58 PM »
Hey Bob:
 
I finally finished some chores and have compared the files I processed, so I can give you a definitive answer on what went on.  We'll use the second picture down from where I started as the example.  
 
I started out with a 2,299 KB file and shrunk it down to 40% of its size.  Color count before shrinkage was 339,919 colors.  The finished file was 144 KB and only had 137,106 in it, as probably 70% to 80% of its pixels were eliminated.  therefore, it will naturally have fewer distinct colors in it.  Jpegs depend heavily on color indexing for size of the file, and not just its dimensions.  As the number of colors increase, so does the color indexing and size of the file, in what seems an exponetial increase (Don't forget that z^(x/y) is still exponential), verses linear.  Although the first picture and second picture are the same file size, 144KB, the second is larger, and has less color mapping, number of colors in it.
 
This site states its limit at 150KB for uploads.  However, this is false.  It is actually 150,000 bytes.  150KB = 150*1024 bytes, which = 153,600 bytes.  This is why I never go over 145KB to post on here, as when I try to get closer to 150KB, it starts failing to upload.  Max size is actually 146.48 Kb.
 
When I 'shrink these pictures, I use an old program called Irfanview.  I use the old version, which is much less complicated and gives quick results.  I open the original in it, click on View, select Resize/Resample and then Keep Aspect Ratio, and set the new size to 40% to start off with.  This way the program reinterpolates the pixels from a fresh loading -> less distortion creeps in.  Then tweak the percentage until you get between 144 KB and 146 KB.  Easy, quick, and the results are excellent.  You can do the same thing in any graphics processor, and get as complicated as you want, messing with size and 'quality (this is usually color depth in most programs)' as you go.  I just don't bother.
 
(Message edited by poor_nigel on April 28, 2005)

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« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2005, 06:50:51 PM »
Irfanview is what I use as well.

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« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2005, 12:41:08 AM »
Thanks, Thomas.
 
On my Mac, I use GraphicConverter, which I highly recommend. Just choose Save As..., and assuming it's already a jpeg, a dialog will pop up with a Quality field at the top. There's a handy little slider to adjust it, and it shows you what the new file size will be.
 
Funny, I also noticed that the limit is slightly less than 150kb, since I was struggling to post a pdf or something that didn't reduce well (got to 149 or so, and ended up zipping it).
 
With a jpeg, simply dropping the quality a little usually does the trick, without changing the visual size of the image.

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« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2005, 01:39:57 AM »
Wow that's a fantastic looking bass bill. I love the walnut figuring. Looks like I'll have to come down to see it in the flesh sometime.  
Hmmm, now there's an idea - tour the UK taking in all the Alembics I can track down. That's got to be better than visiting national trust properties;-)
 
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