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JimmyJ

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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #30 on: September 05, 2015, 04:26:54 AM »
Forest, thanks for the fabulous ideas!  I'll hit the hardware store and the auto parts store and see if I can button that right up.
 
Joey, I am the ultimate slow mover when it comes to updating any of my gear.  I believe ghs sent me a set of the round core Boomer variations to see what I thought ... but I have yet to put them on.
 
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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #31 on: September 05, 2015, 03:47:31 PM »
Jimmy, I forgot to ask as well:  Back in the thread about a Series guitar straight into a commercial power amp, you mention a 'boost amp' to get you to the right level for it's inputs.  So what would that be, and I'm guessing it wouldn't be the typical channel strip or mic pre with all the extras for EQ, etc.
 
I'm NOT the most electronically-fluent, so I kept trying to think of an impedance matching box/transformer, but that does nothing for signal level, only impedance right?
 
I can do a hell of a setup, just DONT hand me a soldering stick and a wiring diagram !
 
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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #32 on: September 05, 2015, 09:23:42 PM »
Yeah Joey, I'm self-taught on this stuff so don't really know what I'm talking about.  When I get stumped I direct my questions to Mica, Ron, or somebody with actual knowledge...
 
What I was writing about was my understanding that the output of a cranked Series II might not quite be full +4dBu kind of line level and so may not drive a power amp to it's max output.  When I've run the bass this way it's worked fine for me, plenty of level, super-clean and super-fast.  (I may have, years ago, changed one resistor on my preamp boards to get a touch more gain, I'm sorry I can't remember the details...)
 
What I was thinking about was, if you needed the amp to run to peak power output you could insert a very clean buffer amp between bass and amp for a few db of extra gain.  But this kind of defeats the purpose of our straight wire magic trick.  Ha!  And the sound of that buffer would be important if you wanted to keep it all pristine.
 
Plus, once you think about adding something into the signal chain you might as well look at a line level EQ maybe with a gain adjustment, or a channel strip.  Then you will have created a unique amplifier rig.
 
The outputs of our basses are considered low-impedence although I have no idea what the value is.  And my crude understanding is that as long as the output of one piece of gear has a lower impedance than the input of the next piece of gear you are good to go.  Power amps seem to be in the 10k-20k range so I think both sides should be happy.  We shouldn't need any transformers between the output of our bass and the input of a power amp UNLESS we need to isolate the ground of the different gear involved (think ground lift switch on a DI box).  
 
I've just started experimenting with a new tiny rig based on the API 500-series gear.  So I'm trying to learn or relearn a few things (even at my advanced age) about transformers, impedance, etc...  If I discover anything I'll let you know!
 
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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #33 on: September 05, 2015, 10:54:35 PM »
Stanley Clarke gave a rig rundown (vice versa, in my case) for Premier Guitar:
 
http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/Rig_Rundown_Stanley_Clarke
 
He uses two F-1Xs and a Swedish-made EBS Microbass II:
 
http://www.ebssweden.com/content/microbassII.php
 
As does our own Chalie Holmes:  
 
 
 
My question is if the EBS Microbass performs the function(s) you're discussing? (Bear in mind that if that's the case, I have to talk my Scottish wife, the Foghorn, into letting me get one.)

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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #34 on: September 05, 2015, 11:33:40 PM »
Looks like that EBS box does everything but make you breakfast.  I'm sure that combined with a power amp and speakers of your choice would make a fine bass amp combo.  It looked like Stanley was using it for his upright and not his Alembics but it wasn't clear to me.  
 
What we're talking about in this thread is minimal gear in the signal chain.  Not everybody's cup of tea.  Stanley's rig is much more ... maximal.  Ha!
 
Again, no right or wrong.  Whatever works for YOU is the way to go.
 
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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #35 on: September 06, 2015, 05:17:39 AM »
Hi Jimmy,  
 
I'm comming to see you play with Steve Gadd Band at Osaka. It's second time for me to see you play since you came with Allan Holdsworth. I'm looking forward to this time too!
 
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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #36 on: September 06, 2015, 08:27:57 AM »
Very interested to hear/see what you are experimenting with on the API 500-series rig Jimmy.  
 
I see that one would have to buy a lunchbox base unit with XLR only outs, to connect these modules?  Which specific modules are you experimenting with and for what scenarios (recording, live, both)? Thanks again for sharing.

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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #37 on: September 06, 2015, 09:54:17 AM »
Fear not, Joey - I once was as you are, and there is hope!  Your assignment: Cross your fingers, read/watch some how-tos, then just jump in and rewire a semi-hollow.  It'll do worlds for your confidence (or drive you to madness).
 
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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #38 on: September 06, 2015, 11:10:31 AM »
In this interview with Guitar.com (from November 2014), he says he runs both his upright and Alembic(s) through the EBS Microbass, so he can A/B through separate rigs:
 
https://www.guitar.com/articles/stanley-clarke-interview-school-days-revisited-bass-legend
 
This interview with Bass Player (from March, 2015) includes a complete list of his equipment. It's where I discovered that we both use Thomastik Spirocore strings on string bass, despite the fact that he never asked my opinion  :
 
http://www.bassplayer.com/artists/1171/stanley-clarke-reflections-of-a-root-revolutionary/51275
 
This topic is of vital interest to me because I have disc disease and have to lighten my load (I blame the Ampeg SVT I insisted on hauling around for years, instead of following everyone's advice to install an engine and wheels and just drive the damn thing to gigs). My Scottish father-in-law warned me that marrying a Scot could result in a little loss of spine, though, but I wasn't expecting this.
 
The worst case scenario is that I'll wind up in a wheelchair, which should make playing my long-scale Series 1 interesting (it's 148, I think). But I'll do it anyway, if I have to fret it with my toes. After playing bass for 49 years, I'm finally learning how to play the damn thing. No sense quitting now, right?
 
On the upside, I'll soon get to have a Da Vinci robot fire a laser beam at my spine - honest - and I'm just enough of a geek to look forward to it, but not so much that I'd wear a costume to a Comic-con (the Foghorn says I look enough like a Klingon as it is).
 
While I appreciate your endorsement of the whatever floats your boat approach, the Foghorn is a rabid JT fan and we've seen him approximately umpteen times (I've managed to talk her out of throwing her underwear so far, on the basis that maybe he doesn't need a spare car cover) so if I told her; well, James Taylor's bassist (no, not the one who looks like Gandalf) said I simply MUST have the Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator ... that'd be enough to pry the checkbook from her iron grip.
 
Like Stanley Clarke and James Jameson, upright is my first love (I like to slap it, too. Yeah, I said it) so the rig I've worked out over the years is amenable to both upright and Alembic, biamped high/low so I can just A/B between them. (With a nifty Paula Abdul-like dance move to switch instruments.)
 
So far, the power amp/F-1X(EBS?) combination sounds promising, as does using the Cletus method to saw two or three feet off the neck of my Alembic, if worse comes to WAY worse.  
 
Either way, I've got some downtime coming up to think about it. Thank you for your help.

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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2015, 08:16:25 AM »
Of course we'd have to say that whatever it is that Stanley is doing is working just fine!!  What I get from that video and article is that I think he's mostly using the MicroBass for his upright. 'Cause how many tone controls does a guy need?  The Microbass is the frontend of a 2-channel bass amp complete with effects loop, overdrive and balanced DI out. Then he's got two Alembic pre's, presumably one for each pickup of his electric basses. Then he's got even more tone controls on his Ampeg amps...  To me that seems crazy - like 3 preamps in a row - but that TONE he gets is undeniable!
 
So like I say, to each his own.  
 
And furthermore - 97.2% of the sound comes from our hands!  If you or I were handed Stanley's bass we would not sound like Stanley.  The last 2.8% is all about our personal choices in gear and the right gear for you is whatever makes you smile and inspires you to play.
 
Brian, I'll let you guys know what I get up to with the experiments. I'm looking for a bit more options in a mini traveling rig.
 
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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2015, 11:16:52 AM »
This appeared on my Facebook feed today, It appears you have an appreciation group on Facebook Jimmy.
https://www.facebook.com/jimmyflimjohnson/
The sound of Alembic is medicine for the soul!
http://www.alembic.com/info/fc_ktwins.html

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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2015, 01:18:14 PM »
Well . . . . then that would be the second one !
 
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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2015, 02:57:44 PM »
My understanding is Stanley goes into the Alembic preamps and these go into the effects or aux in of the Ampeg bypassing the tone circuitry. So basically he is just using the Ampeg as a power amp. When I saw him at an acoustic gig with Hiromi he had an Ampeg 4x10 and was using what at the time I assumed was a Fishman preamp. My guess after seeing this is it was the Microbass. And yes it is all in the fingers. I just wish mine would show a little more team work but somehow they always manage to get in each others way.  
 
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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2015, 05:01:47 PM »
OK my appreciation group is just plain weird.  I guess anybody can post anything...  But that's weird.  Ew.
 
Yeah Keith, that makes sense.  In Stanley's video I believe he's running the upper Ampeg head as a stereo power amp with the Alembic pres.  The lower Ampeg head is for the upright and, since he's plugged into the front of it, a second set of tone controls after the MicroBass.  Glad we figured that out!
 
Now don't encourage that Facebook guy.  Ew.
 
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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2015, 08:40:38 PM »
Here's a 'rig rundown' for SC from PREMIER GUITAR from his 2011 campaign:
 
http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/Rig_Rundown_Stanley_Clarke
 
Only Stanley would run an upright thru an SVT !
 
Joey