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reinier

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Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« on: October 03, 2004, 03:16:35 PM »
Mr. Series II since 1976 (unfortunately I haven't yet located my copy of Wayne Johnson's 1980 release "Arrowhead" with a nice studio pic of his first SII with fan peghead, but I'll find it one of these days) at work with Lee Ritenour (1984) and his current gig, James Taylor (2001):  

 

 

 


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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2004, 03:31:50 PM »
HAllo Reinier,
 
there is a video of a James Taylor rehearsal concert at a barn somewhere. I think even at James home where you can see Mr. JJ at work on this bass (not the fan-head). Anyway ...a very nice and intense concert and those bass-lines are sooooooooooooooooo nice and ...well ...economical describes it but I don't like the word.
 
Paul the bad one

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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2004, 04:02:33 PM »
Wow !
I want to see such photo.
 
I have never seen Graphite 5 bass except Mr. J.J.'s and mine.
His current bass has cone head, but neck width and control knobs are same dimension as his 70's 5 strings (with fan head).
And these has nice Walnut top too.
 
I love narrow neck 5 st.

reinier

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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2004, 07:41:07 AM »
Found it! Here's the pic of Flim in the studio while recording one of the best free Alembic ads ever: "Arrowhead" by the Wayne Johnson trio. Lots of melodies and solos by Flim on both fretted & fretless SII. In a May '89 Guitar Player interview Flim reports this bass was stolen 1.5 yrs earlier when touring with Allan Holdsworth. Could be the fan peghead SII in the "Stolen Alembics" section?  

  And for you as a graphite neck lover, Eiji, here's the (only) pic from the '89 GP interview (apologies for the page cut; I didn't want to cut up the mag). Reportedly, the other side of the neck doesn't have frets either ;-)  

  Paul, indeed Flim's playing with JT isn't themost flashy stuff around. Still love to see that video by the way. If you want to hear some "uneconomical" playing, just listen to "In the mystery" from Allan Holdsworth' "Metal Fatigue".  Talking of videos: is anyone the happy owner of Allan Holdsworth' "Tokyo dream" video disc (or the VCR bootleg) released in Japan only? Supposed to be a killer trio (Chad Wackerman on drums?).  Take care, RR

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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2004, 07:58:04 AM »
Hoi Reinier,
 
let's not take this the wrong way. I just LOVE JJ playing that economical way. Being the most unflashy bassplayer of all time myself I always look for this economical way to play ...it just feels so ...well ...oh ....huhuhu ...right. There is nothing to add nothing to do another way ...just precisely right. I am a HUGE fun of JJ.
On the flashy side I would choose for Armand SL ...but well >>>>
 
 
oops (I installed an automatic off-topic censoring device ....huh ...it will work for about a day I guess)
 
Paul the bad one

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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2004, 08:09:44 AM »
Hi Reinier,
 
Thank you for great photo.
I saw this photo in B/W.
Burl Walnut on back side is just like Graphite !
 
I have Tokyo Dream disc.
This live act was done at Tokyo 1984.
It was released in Japan.
Mr J.J. play his Graphite 5 st.
Yes, Chad Wackerman on drams and Paul Williams on vocal.  
I will try to upload these pict.

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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2004, 07:43:10 AM »
Hi,    This photo is included Japanese Alembic catalogue in late 80's.  Another photo is in "stolen Alembics" 76 AC 418  

    Next pict is J.Johnson signature bass.  The bass has 3/4 body and both scales medium or long.  I saw only a few this model in Japan.    

    My favorite is standard omega body.  I love it than 3/4 body.  (Message edited by room037 on October 07, 2004)

reinier

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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2004, 02:25:56 AM »
Hi Eiji,
 
Thx for the great pics! I have asked Alembic if they would know how may JJ signature basses have been produced but haven't heard from them yet (perhaps I should use a different e-mail than the general Alembic@Alembic.com?). You've partly answered that question now. Thx! Would be interesting to know where they've been shipped to. Could it be a model mainly for the Japanese market?
 
It's a real beauty, the JJ from the folder. Fan peghead (WOW!), Deluxe neck laminates and classic knobs, so I guess there was no real standard for the JJ model. But then again, the words standard and Alembic don't mix too well anyhow ;-) they're all about being non-standard!
 
I now have a digital camera but I'm still waiting for my classic hat knobs to arrive. As soon as they're on, I'll experiment to see if I can match the pro shots above....
 
Take care,RR

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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2004, 07:42:53 AM »
Hi Reinier,
 
Yah, I am also interested how many made JJ Sig.
There is only 2 JJ Sig. bass in this club. (one is your's Reinier !)
 
I saw the bass only two time in late 80's to eary 90's, one was long scale, and another was medium scale.
I was looking for it again, but I can't find it.
I think this JJ sig (with 3/4 body) were ordered by Japanese dealer, after the boom of Alan Holdsworth with JJ.
 
This bass's neck was slightly wide than 70's 5 st.
I think it was standard 5 st width neck in late 80's.
Then, the neck was not deluxe laminates (like series 2), it was standard 7 piece for 5 strings.  
 
My Graphite 5 has slightly wide neck.
May be it is same construction as JJ sig in 80's.
Each strings space is 15mm.
I think, 70's 5 strings has 14mm space.  
 
How do you think the 5 string neck width ?
I love the narrow one !  
 
room037 from Japan

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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2005, 10:47:43 PM »
hey does anyone know what jimmy johnson's rig is?

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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2005, 05:19:39 AM »
I know he doesn't use a backline at all. I saw him last summer at a Drum Workshop clinic with Chad Wackerman and Alan Hodsworth, and he was straight into a small power supply and then the mains. He only had two floor wedges on his side of the stage. The JT concert videos for Live at the Beacon Theatre and Pull Over look like the same setup.
Mike
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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2005, 12:00:27 AM »
wow that awesome. very orgainic with the alembic. that and his fingers. do you know if he ever had a backline, and if so what?  
also, what's your fav FRETTED styles jimmy johnson album? ?
 
he didnt have leds did he?

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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2005, 05:18:43 AM »
Just for the record (as indeed Flim hardly tows anything with him nowadays), in the abovementioned '89 Guitar Player interview Flim lists two sets of backline he used at the time: for small gigs and rehearsals, a Walter Woods head, powering two Thiele-design cabinets with 12 EV speakers. For big venues, he had a small PA, built up as follows: separate PU outputs from Alembic power supply >> Simon Systems 19 DI >> stereo crossover >> Yamaha power amps >> Meyer Soundlab speakers (highs stereo into two 12 + 1; lows into a single 15 subwoofer).
 
A few years earlier I've seen Flim on tour with Allan Holdsworth here in The Netherlands, using only a poweramp into a pair of stacked JBL 15 3-way cabs. I was close enough to the stage tie his shoe-laces together and must say I wasn't thrilled by the way his Alembic sounded (rather mid-heavy, with an added edge of a solid state system being pushed to its limit, not very hifi so to say).
 
As for hifi: you can clearly hear the improvement in sound reinforcement technology over the years. Just compare Flim's sound on Allan Holdsworth's 2002 live release All night wrong or the two James Taylor DVDs Mike mentioned to the (non official) release I.O.U. Live of some 20 years earlier. It seems as if sound reinforcement is (finally) catching up with the unsurpassed sound quality of Alembic basses.
 
Best Flim Johnson album must be the Wayne Johnson Trio's 1980 release Arrowhead (unfortunately never made it to CD). Most songs fretted, the fretless songs are hard to spot though, at least until Flim's solos start. Contains one of the prettiest bass solo's ever recorded or, as our guitar player once stated, this is how a bass solo should be.
 
Take care,RR

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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2005, 06:41:57 AM »
Reinier; thanks for the info on Jimmy Johnson.  That's interesting that he was playing straight into the power amp.
 
Oh, and no fair saying something about one of the prettiest bass solo's ever recorded and also saying that we can't hear it!  
 
I did go look for it, and found mention of the LP on Wayne Johnson's site.  Maybe if we all emailed him.

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Re: Jimmy "Flim" Johnson
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2005, 07:17:36 AM »
Ordered the Hybrid SuperAudio CD 'Tricycle' by Flim & The BB's and it should be here in about 3-4 weeks. Their albums are very hard to find, in fact this will be my first Flim recording, but I'll check out the James Taylor DVD's or the latest albums with JJ on bass.
 
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