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Re: Jimmy
« Reply #1590 on: July 31, 2020, 12:39:50 AM »
I don't go as far as writing out crib sheets for our music - it's not that complicated - but I do have the opening note for each song written on the set list. At least that way I won't have a repeat of an embarrassing opening number 18 or 19 years ago when I was nowhere near the right key.

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Re: Jimmy
« Reply #1591 on: July 31, 2020, 05:28:48 AM »
Jazzyvee,

I know, it's very messy notation!  Ha!  I did a similar thing with Allan in spiral sketchbooks, but those charts were not very detailed. Primarily only the bass notes with no further chord information or time signature info.  And I almost always had one of my scribbles on the floor in front of me when playing with him just to help me stick to the form.  Here's one for the song Atavachron if anybody is interested...

Jimmy J



Oh, yes, we are interested, Jimmy. No doubt about it. Thanks for sharing!
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« Reply #1592 on: July 31, 2020, 08:26:38 AM »
Rusty, the thing about in-ears is that you can get an overall mix that almost sounds like a record.  You need to remember that you'e not only listening to music but currently playing the bass part.  Ha!  I would say that my sound at the Potato is still mostly the DI sound that I'm used to.  In the above case, Gadd's full-range monitor and the PA were filling the room and my little Woods was almost acting like a sub.  I've probably mentioned it before - Don Randi, the famous studio keyboard guy who built the place in 1970 - used a studio trick and filled the tiny stage with sand.  That removed any bass note resonance and helps the little room sound so good.  Even with John Daversa's giant band on - or near - the stage, with Jerry W smoothly wrangling the bass notes.  I'm sure we'll run into each other there at some point although at this very moment it's hard to imagine when that "back to normal" future might happen.  We'll get there!

Jazzyvee, some of the greatest musicians we know are not readers in the traditional sense.  It's a handy skill to have but it doesn't make you a better musician.  Remembering music and playing by ear are more important for the types of music we're all into.  And as you say, in many cases charts are just not appropriate on stage.

Graeme, same here, once I get to the point where I can remember the arrangement the next step is to mark down the starting note.  I think my ear works in intervals so the second note is based on what the first note was.  Very handy for those rare occasions when JT would misplace his capo and the whole band would transpose the tune by a 1/2 step.  Ha!!

Mario, thanks.

Jimmy J

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Re: Jimmy
« Reply #1593 on: July 31, 2020, 09:14:28 AM »
Per Stornes, is that you?

LOL, it is indeed me. (Who you've been talking to?) Since I manage a fan site with some 10.000 followers on Facebook, I try to keep a low personal profile online. Not so unlike yourself, it seems. Since I found out I could join the URAH group by way of my AH Facebook page, I prefer doing that. Thanks for being so gracious!

Now, since I don't want to hijack the thread and the forum, I want to ask a topical question to bring things back on track. The Alembic sound is quite distinctive, especially in your hands. As I understand it, you used a Series II model with Allan. Did Allan ever comment on the tonal qualities of your instrument in relation to his music? Your sound is more of a full-range sound as opposed to the bass players that preceded you in Allan's group, and even the bass players in his previous bands. Also, as I understand it, you used the same instrument through your tenure with him. It must have been quite a contrast when you showed up at every gig with the same bass, while he would constantly change around his guitars, pickups, effects, amps, speakers and microphones, in search of that ever elusive sound. Did you ever talk about this?

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« Reply #1594 on: July 31, 2020, 11:56:11 AM »
Hey Per,

Yeah, good luck with the low profile thing.  Ha!  And thanks for the bass related comments and questions. 

When I first started playing with Allan around '84 or '85 (you likley know better than I can remember) I was playing my original Alembic 5-string Series-I built in 1976.  That's the bass I played on Metal Fatigue, Atavachron, and I think on Sand.  With the exception of my 1980 graphite-neck 5-string fretless Series I which can be heard on "Home" and "The 4.15 Bradford Executive".

That original '76 Series-I was stolen out of Allan's equipment van in the early morning hours of September 12th, 1987 after a gig the night before at a club aptly named "the Chance".  I temporarily replaced it with a non-Series Alembic 5-string (can't remember which model) hastily purchased in NYC the following day to finish out that tour.  And Alembic replaced that lost instrument with a Series-II 5-string which is heard on any of Allan's records after that.  This '87 bass is still my main studio instrument.

I don't think I ever spoke to Allan specifically about how his endless gear quest differed from my own approach.  But that is kinda funny now that you mention it.  I believe he liked the sound of my basses and he did once make a specific comment about the tone saying he was surprised to discover that if he ran my bass through an EQ and boosted 7k - there was actually audio content up there!  (Can't remember exactly if he said 7, 5, or 10k...)

This wide full-range tone is not everybody's cup of tea but I clearly love it because I've been stuck on it since the mid-70s.  I think of these as natural, almost acoustic sounding instruments.  No odd frequency bumps or gaps and very evenly speaking notes all the way up and down the neck.  The only down side is that it can take up a lot of space in a mix so it often needs to be "shaped" a bit to leave room for others.  But even that's easy to do because of the full range sound.

Thanks,
Jimmy J

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« Reply #1595 on: July 31, 2020, 12:15:32 PM »
Rusty, the thing about in-ears is that you can get an overall mix that almost sounds like a record.  You need to remember that you'e not only listening to music but currently playing the bass part.  Ha!  I would say that my sound at the Potato is still mostly the DI sound that I'm used to.  In the above case, Gadd's full-range monitor and the PA were filling the room and my little Woods was almost acting like a sub.  I've probably mentioned it before - Don Randi, the famous studio keyboard guy who built the place in 1970 - used a studio trick and filled the tiny stage with sand.  That removed any bass note resonance and helps the little room sound so good.  Even with John Daversa's giant band on - or near - the stage, with Jerry W smoothly wrangling the bass notes.  I'm sure we'll run into each other there at some point although at this very moment it's hard to imagine when that "back to normal" future might happen.  We'll get there!

Jazzyvee, some of the greatest musicians we know are not readers in the traditional sense.  It's a handy skill to have but it doesn't make you a better musician.  Remembering music and playing by ear are more important for the types of music we're all into.  And as you say, in many cases charts are just not appropriate on stage.

Graeme, same here, once I get to the point where I can remember the arrangement the next step is to mark down the starting note.  I think my ear works in intervals so the second note is based on what the first note was.  Very handy for those rare occasions when JT would misplace his capo and the whole band would transpose the tune by a 1/2 step.  Ha!!

Mario, thanks.

Jimmy J

I can imagine how incredible your bass sounded coming from 3 sources in that small room! I agree about the in ears, they are like being in the studio! I was the lone hold out in my band to use in ears because I had just bought 2 AccuGroove full range cabinets and for the first time in my life was getting the tone I always heard in my head. So I did not want to give up that live sound for in ears. Then I started playing for my church & was forced to use in ears. They used cheapo Westones that sounded like a tin can so I got some custom molded 64 Audio 8 driver IEM's that sound amazing! You can actually "feel" the bass with them! They are very responsive to the full range of my Alembics. Each player in the band has their own Roland M48 headphone mixer so we can set our own mix & EQ which makes a huge difference. Now I love in ears! They are really great on planes because they completely isolate all the outside sound since they are molded to my ear canals The first time I wore them on a plane a lady sat beside me with a baby & she assured me the baby would not cry, I just laughed & pulled one of my in ears out & told her I wouldn't hear him if he did! I stand 5' from our trumpet section in the orchestra & don't even hear them!


Don was very wise to fill the stage with sand! I wish all clubs would do that! I don't think my son will ever leave Culver City (He's an Editor at Sony Pictures), so I'll keep coming to visit & surely our paths will cross someday! When we plan our trips I check the spud schedule before booking the flights, If I saw that you were playing I would plan my trip around that! I do still have my JT tickets for next year too!
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Re: Jimmy
« Reply #1596 on: October 03, 2020, 10:14:34 PM »
And just for your entertainment, here's a computer generated recreation of one of Allan's own charts.  This is for the solo section of the song "The Sixteen Men Of Tain".  He had obviously invented his own form of notation which referred to the available scales as opposed to the standard chord symbol approach.  Wild, huh?

Jimmy J

Wow thanks alot Jimmy for your scans of your Holdsworth charts! They are like Einstein's proofs, or Beethoven's sketches!

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« Reply #1597 on: October 03, 2020, 11:00:59 PM »
My brother works in radio and has to do all that stuff like Twitter, etc. I don't know the names. He HATES it.
It IS cool seeing JJ , as always :)
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Re: Jimmy
« Reply #1598 on: October 21, 2020, 12:19:06 PM »
Totally random, but I ran across this fun pic on the Chad Wackerman Wikipedia page.


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Re: Jimmy
« Reply #1599 on: October 21, 2020, 01:51:30 PM »
A nice photo of Series II neck and headstock laminations! 
Clearly something funny just happened because even Allan is giggling.  Good times.
Thanks,
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« Reply #1600 on: October 22, 2020, 12:51:19 AM »
I enjoyed Chad's drumming when he sat in on one of JT's Glasgow shows. Not sure why Steve wasn't there but Chad did a fine job. He was superb when he came to Glasgow with Allan. I believe Ernest Tibbs held down the Bass chair that time round.

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Re: Jimmy
« Reply #1601 on: October 22, 2020, 06:52:21 AM »
even Allan is giggling.

Yeah, that's my favorite part!

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« Reply #1602 on: November 06, 2020, 04:53:47 AM »
Hey Jimmy, I just purchased the ticket for live streaming concert tomorrow, have a blast there, can't wait to hear/see it.

All best

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Re: Jimmy
« Reply #1603 on: November 06, 2020, 07:59:53 AM »
Hey Goran,

Thanks for supporting the team!  This one won't actually be "live", it was taped a couple weeks ago so technically we've already had the blast.  :)  I hope it came out ok, we didn't listen back to anything...

Champion is set up like a tv studio with a bunch of pro video gear and a full-on mobile satellite uplink tv truck as a control room.  Audio was mixed live by Dennis Moody who also engineered our first Gadd Band album.

We did the original taping on Oct 3 but because of some technical problem ("extracting video from a few cameras"??) they called us back a week later to do it again.  Small crew, no audience, masks all around...  That part makes it pretty weird but it sure was fun to play music with other people - in real time!  I was afraid I'd forgotten how to do that but it's kinda like riding a bike.  ;)

Enjoy, and thanks again,
Jimmy J

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