Author Topic: Rusty's Custom Series II 5-string  (Read 23172 times)

5a_quilt_top

  • club
  • Senior Member
  • *
  • Posts: 686
Re: Rusty's Custom Series II 5-string
« Reply #45 on: January 26, 2015, 10:45:58 AM »
Hey man - way to play th' Blues!

rustyg61

  • club
  • Senior Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1963
Re: Rusty's Custom Series II 5-string
« Reply #46 on: January 26, 2015, 12:44:48 PM »
Yeah, I could stand in front of a blue screen & be invisible!
Rusty
2011 SCSD
2014 "Blue Orca" Series II Europa
http://www.alembic.com/info/fc_blueorca.html

rjmsteel

  • club
  • Advanced Member
  • *
  • Posts: 270
Re: Rusty's Custom Series II 5-string
« Reply #47 on: January 26, 2015, 06:05:37 PM »
Rusty,
 
This may be unconventional but with my Series Bass, (Richs Series Sans Filters), I send the outputs of my DS-5R to my SF-2 and then to my small format Mackie mixer (802-vlz-3). The EQ is set completely flat, (I wish it had a defeat switch), and pan the Main Outs to my two amplifier Heads.
 
This way I can pan (1) pickup hard left and the other hard right... or what I usually do is pan both channels 1 & 2 almost dead center and let my volume controls on the bass dictate the strong panned channel to the respective amp.
 
The whole thing is wired up in a rack with one head mounted and the other head sitting on top of the rack so I can take it home. (Let me know and I\ll try and take a picture of the rig).
 
Sounds great and I have full control of the cabinets from each respective channel on the SF-2, each respective amplifier driving the paired or single cabinet (and respective pickup) all the while keeping the system as close to Full Range without the Bi-Amp headaches of speaker cabinet issues when combining 2 to 4 cabinets full of speakers.
 
Love your SII!!!!
 
Rich
2023 Mark King 5 String, Buckeye Burl via Will Gunn Guitars. With added 5-pin jack
2011 Series Custom Sans Filter 4 String: Coco Bolo
1989 Elan 6 String: Bubinga
1981 Distillate: Purpleheart Top

rustyg61

  • club
  • Senior Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1963
Re: Rusty's Custom Series II 5-string
« Reply #48 on: January 26, 2015, 07:55:19 PM »
Hey Rich, your rig sounds impressive! I would love to see pictures of it! I have been thinking about running one channel of my SF-2 to one amp & the other channel to the other amp similar to what you are doing, but I was planning on patching the SF-2 through the effects loop which is how I have it now. My line out on my amp is pre-EQ so using the effects loop allows me to color the sound I hear on stage without effecting the signal I send to the PA. You don't have any problems with the SF-2 overdriving the mixer or amps going into it first?
Rusty
2011 SCSD
2014 "Blue Orca" Series II Europa
http://www.alembic.com/info/fc_blueorca.html

rjmsteel

  • club
  • Advanced Member
  • *
  • Posts: 270
Re: Rusty's Custom Series II 5-string
« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2015, 05:41:28 PM »
Rusty~
 
No issues with overdrive from the SF-2. Remember I am not using the SF-2 as a preamp (in this situation). I patch directly out of the back of the DS-5R, Bass output to channel 1 and treble (bridge) output to channel 2 all on the rear panel of the SF-2.
 
From the rear panel outputs of the SF-2 I patch directly into the Mackie, then of course Main Outs to the amps.... and yes I have had issues with the mixer, (I cannot remember all of them right now), adding coloration; but have rectified all that now where it is completely silent. I can even mute each channel by the fader!  
 
In my (8) space Rack ~ (I swear its not that heavy ~the Eden head is the worst part) ~ I placed the (small format) Mixer in a Rack Drawer and doubled up velcro on the back side of the mixer - to the velcro added to the shelf of the drawer, velcro\d the power supply down, made patch cabling to reach all the inputs/outputs to where or when the drawer is open or closed, and patch cable to a 1/4 Patch Bay on the Racks Front to any of the amplifiers (or effects back to mixer if I choose)... works like charm.  
 
So Rack top to bottom is the 2 Space Rack Drawer (with Mackie), The Patch Bay (1 space), Furman Rack Power, SF-2, DS-5R, Eden WT-550. All wiring is at the rear of the rack with the exception of the outputs of the Mixer Mains to the Patch Bay to the heads. The other Head sits on top of the rack and is also fed from the Patch bay.
By the way even with all the patch cabling it is still quiet except for any over eq\ing at the heads.
 
Here is another thing, (you may already know), but while talking to Will (Gunn) after getting frustrated he enlightened knowledge to me on the best way to setup the SF-2 - Volume wise. Here goes... The filters Gain on each channel is at Unity Gain at 1:00 O\clock. The Direct Gains can be addressed in a similar fashion where you could have them open all the way but its better to begin throttling back. This is your Starting point. Keep in mind my Series bass is Sans Filters so you may encounter more gain from your bass. Below is my response back to confirm I understood what Will explained to me,  
 
Will,
 
Here is what I got out of our conversation and what I will try on my SF-2/Rig setup.
 
SF-2/Series Bass Settings:
 
Think Subtractive!
 
    Both Pickups set full up (wide open).
    Input Gain/ Direct Gain Channel A:
 
    Set @ Full up subtract to remove highs when trying to play with a mellower tone;
    (remember Gains are NOT (amplified) volume additive, but instead are Tone additive!
 
    Direct Gain Channel B:
 
    Same as above
 
    Filter Gain Channel A:
 
    Set Frequency Gains at 1:00 (pm). This is Unity Gain on the unit. Do this on both channels Filter Gain controls.
 
    Filter Gain Channel B: as above.
 
Remember to think Subtractive instead of boosting (Bass or Treble Frequencies, etc.)
 
Enough rambling now,
 
Rich
2023 Mark King 5 String, Buckeye Burl via Will Gunn Guitars. With added 5-pin jack
2011 Series Custom Sans Filter 4 String: Coco Bolo
1989 Elan 6 String: Bubinga
1981 Distillate: Purpleheart Top

rustyg61

  • club
  • Senior Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1963
Re: Rusty's Custom Series II 5-string
« Reply #50 on: January 28, 2015, 05:47:53 AM »
I run my Direct gain full open & tend to run the filter gain between 11 & 1:00. I had an issue with the SF-2 distorting when I first got it, but I may have had it hooked up wrong. I haven't had that problem lately. I did not know that 1:00 was unity gain on the Filter Gain, so thanks for that info!
 
I have a WT-800, what EQ settings are you using on your 550?
Rusty
2011 SCSD
2014 "Blue Orca" Series II Europa
http://www.alembic.com/info/fc_blueorca.html

rustyg61

  • club
  • Senior Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1963
Re: Rusty's Custom Series II 5-string
« Reply #51 on: February 21, 2015, 01:57:10 PM »
Have I told you how much I LOVE this bass??? I have loved every Alembic I have ever played, but there is something different about having a custom build. Selecting all the ingredients that went into building this bass makes it feel like it has my DNA, like it is my own offspring. When I pick it up I instantly become one with it. It fits my hands so perfectly it feels like an extension of me rather than a tool in my hands. For a while I questioned myself on whether it was worth spending this kind of money on a bass, but after spending some time with it, you really can't put a price on what I feel when I play it! Every Alembic is a work of art, but this one is truly special!
 
To Quote Ferris Bueller - It is so choice. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up.  :-)
Rusty
2011 SCSD
2014 "Blue Orca" Series II Europa
http://www.alembic.com/info/fc_blueorca.html

edwardofhuncote

  • club
  • Senior Member
  • *
  • Posts: 8017
Re: Rusty's Custom Series II 5-string
« Reply #52 on: February 24, 2015, 05:10:28 AM »
Amen Rusty. There's volumes to be said for having EXACTLY the bass of your wildest imagination.  
 
Beyond Custom... indeed.
 
*edit - ...and Ferris Bueller is still my hero! =) (well, one of them anyway)
 
(Message edited by edwardofhuncote on February 24, 2015)

rustyg61

  • club
  • Senior Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1963
Re: Rusty's Custom Series II 5-string
« Reply #53 on: February 24, 2015, 12:14:44 PM »
Gregory, when you deal with Alembic, sometimes you get something way beyond your wildest imagination! You start bouncing ideas off of Susan & Mica & they can come up with stuff you never even dreamed of! Ron is the Wizard of electronics, but Susan & Mica are Wizards in their own right when it comes to design & construction. They can take your ideas & your likes & dislikes & transform them into an instrument that will blow your mind! They have a gift for knowing what ingredients work that will materialize your dream.
 
We should all be as cool as Ferris, but then again, he didn't have an Alembic & I will take that over cool any day!
Rusty
2011 SCSD
2014 "Blue Orca" Series II Europa
http://www.alembic.com/info/fc_blueorca.html

rustyg61

  • club
  • Senior Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1963
Re: Rusty's Custom Series II 5-string
« Reply #54 on: January 21, 2014, 08:37:27 PM »
Thanks Slawie! I can't wait to see the Maple with finish on it! To quote Mica in the email she sent me with the pictures of the wood,  ...with finish they are going to be crazy amazing!
Rusty
2011 SCSD
2014 "Blue Orca" Series II Europa
http://www.alembic.com/info/fc_blueorca.html

stout71

  • club
  • Advanced Member
  • *
  • Posts: 301
    • My Facebook Page
Re: Rusty's Custom Series II 5-string
« Reply #55 on: January 22, 2014, 06:44:06 AM »
The vermillion neck laminates are standout.  It's a nice switch from purpleheart and will look really cool against the blue sunburst finish.  I will be watching this build with great anticipation!

rustyg61

  • club
  • Senior Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1963
Re: Rusty's Custom Series II 5-string
« Reply #56 on: January 22, 2014, 11:30:35 AM »
I agree Jerry! I love the orange & black combination!
Rusty
2011 SCSD
2014 "Blue Orca" Series II Europa
http://www.alembic.com/info/fc_blueorca.html

mica

  • alembic
  • Senior Member
  • *
  • Posts: 10595
Re: Rusty's Custom Series II 5-string
« Reply #57 on: January 31, 2014, 06:05:19 PM »
More stuff happening...  Gathering up the body woods:

  Getting ready to glue the back to the body core pack (core with accents in place):

  Rough neck shaping:

  Making the neck flush with the body:

 Uses some very cute hand planes  First steps in backplate construction:

  Next week the top should go on. More pictures then!

David Houck

  • Global Moderator
  • Senior Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 15596
Re: Rusty's Custom Series II 5-string
« Reply #58 on: January 31, 2014, 06:29:36 PM »
Great pics!!  It's amazing how it all comes together.

rustyg61

  • club
  • Senior Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1963
Re: Rusty's Custom Series II 5-string
« Reply #59 on: January 31, 2014, 06:55:19 PM »
WOO HOO!!! It's starting to look like a bass!! I'm seeing some Alembic Snow for this Christmas! Thanks Mica! You just made my weekend!!
Rusty
2011 SCSD
2014 "Blue Orca" Series II Europa
http://www.alembic.com/info/fc_blueorca.html