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David Houck

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« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2004, 11:06:33 AM »
I seem to recall that somewhere around this forum there is a neck through Orion.

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« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2004, 11:18:59 AM »
Or maybe I'm just recalling past posts by people thinking about ordering a neck through Orion.

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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2004, 02:03:25 PM »
Hey guys, if you check the Orion page on the regular site, you'll notice that the Orion is the Europa shape married to the set-neck design (originally the Epic).

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« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2004, 05:51:19 PM »
Adriaan; while the Orion page may say it's a Europa body with a set neck, I have to agree with Mike above.  The cutaways are significantly different.  A neck through Orion would not look the same as a Europa.

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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2004, 06:23:42 AM »
On the set-neck instruments the outline of the body is uninterrupted where the neck is set in, but on a neck-through the body always curves out where it joins the neck. I guess that explains the difference in the cutaways - it certainly makes the upper horn look a lot different.

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« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2004, 08:09:59 AM »
Adriaan; I think I see what you are saying.  That on a neck through, the cutaway will be higher because of the heel?

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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2004, 11:24:49 AM »
Don,
sorry to de-rail your post, happens a lot around here.... but if you seriously coinsider the Orion, you might want to invistigate if the coco bolo option applies. Sometimes the discounts on the exotic woods don't apply to set necks. On the other hand, I believe coco bolo is the standard top on a Europa. But the Europa costs more than the standard MK. Geez, this does get confusing, eh? And the new Balance K bodies look especially appealing. Not making this any easier for you, i think i'll go away for a bit.
 
back again....
 
I think I've seen a coco bolo topped Orion with Sig electronics in the showcase. Wasn't that Pastor Scott's?
 
Back to Bob's post - he makes a point about the costs of loading up on special features like woods and body styles that then depreciate once you take delivery. But if this is a bass you intend to own for a number of years I think it's worth it if you know before hand that you'll likely never recover the majority of the original purchase price. And can face the possibility of nicks and dings to a gigging bass. Obviously my 20th has some years on it , it's been well taken care of (thanks, poor nigel), and it has some scars, but it's also a bass that begs to be played in venues other than the spare room in your house. Perversely, it's a relief to have those don't bang my new car jitters out of the way and languished over by someone other than me.
 
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« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2004, 02:29:11 PM »
It seems to me that the Orion body was designed from the start as a set neck design. If you were to try and make it a neck thru, the body sides would butt up against a totaly flat sided neck joint in a most unelegant way.(IMHO)Thus the neccesity of the Europa modification to make a smooth transiton with the neck. I can't see how it could be done but then, the wizards of Alembic have amazing ways of making magic in order to bring someones dreams to reality. MikeD

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« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2004, 04:22:08 PM »
Hello Bro's,
 
iff (=if and only if) I remember well there was once a client who wnated a neck through Excel. There were a LOT of difficulties to make that neck/body joint smooth. The man who sculpted the heel begged Mica not to ask him to do that again. I guess it will be the case with all set-neck-designed models.
The same story goes about putting a CVQ on a non-series bass. I think Ron did it once and said never again.
There ARE limits on customising you know ...oh ....huh ...not many ....and far away ...but they ARE there.
 
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« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2004, 07:31:04 AM »
I have a few scenarios in place now. The Orion would stay a set neck if that were to be the one.
 
My main concern at this point is trying to not drive the people at alembic and bass central nuts with my questions.

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« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2004, 07:34:05 AM »
so in addition to the MK listed above i have on the plate a Europa with a coco top, ph lams. and the Orion with coco top, ph body (maybe hollow), ph neck lams,cone peghead, and essence electronics.