Author Topic: Black SC Series I (Read 1362 times)

mica · « **Reply #15 on:** January 23, 2008, 10:03:23 AM »

Since it's a Dalbergia, the expectation would be for it to sound similar to other Rosewoods, like Coco Bolo, Kingwood, Brazil, and Indian which we have used each with similar results. You never know until you build it, and the first person to try it gets to know for sure.

David Houck · « **Reply #16 on:** January 23, 2008, 10:53:48 AM »

After perusing the web for a while, this quote seems to sum up what I found elsewhere; African Blackwood is a very responsive, excellent tone wood ... Mellow tone and attack. This wood is sought after for high end woodwinds (clarinets, oboes, flutes, etc.) and bagpipes. I've also seen it on a few high end acoustic guitars employed on the back and sides. In reference to it's use in acoustic guitars, I found a quote that suggests the tone is not as deep as Brazilian Rosewood but not as tight as Mahogany. That quote combined with several others I ran across suggest to me that Blackwood is going to be similar in tone to Rosewood.

All of this is to say that I have absolutely no idea. My guess is that as a top wood it probably doesn't add to the sound as much as Ebony or Coco Bolo would, that it wouldn't have the fundamental clarity of Ebony or the complexity of Coco Bolo; but I'm just guessing. I really have no idea. If cost is no object, it certainly sounds like an interesting idea. One post I read indicated that it is becoming increasingly more difficult to find Blackwood is sizes large enough to make a two piece back for an acoustic guitar. I don't know if any of this is helpful to you or not; but it certainly looks interesting.

David Houck · « **Reply #17 on:** January 23, 2008, 10:56:01 AM »

Wow! I can't believe how long it took me to write that last post; Mica beat me by 50 minutes!!

Go with what Mica said!

(Message edited by davehouck on January 23, 2008)

pierreyves · « **Reply #18 on:** January 24, 2008, 01:58:35 AM »

First problem (to Mica?): is it possible to tinct ebony or blackwood to give intense and regular black color, just able to see veneers ?
For me, the best would be like vermillon veneers but black.

mica · « **Reply #19 on:** January 24, 2008, 01:09:48 PM »

We haven't done any tinting or dyeing of wood. As I mentioned, we have black Ebony wide enough for a top, but in very limited quantities.

pierreyves · « **Reply #20 on:** January 24, 2008, 01:12:18 PM »

ok, I have time to wait...

pierreyves · « **Reply #21 on:** February 06, 2008, 07:39:16 AM »

Mica : is it possible to tinct ebony or blackwood or any wood to give intense and regular black color, just able to see veneers ?
For me, the best would be like vermillon veneers but black.

Thank's

Bradley Young · « **Reply #22 on:** February 06, 2008, 10:55:31 AM »

Ebonized Ebony. huh.

pierreyves · « **Reply #23 on:** February 10, 2008, 01:39:40 PM »

Mica ?

mica · « **Reply #24 on:** February 11, 2008, 02:09:11 PM »

We shy away from dyed or tinted wood. On a project we made for another manufacturer, they had ebonized Holly as an accent pinstripe. On the prototype, the black dye ran into the adjacent Maple - not a pretty sight.

I'm not exactly sure by what you mean by just able to see veneers in your post from Feb 6th. Do you mean the grain lines as indicated by the ? in this picture:

David Houck · « **Reply #25 on:** February 11, 2008, 07:53:40 PM »

Now that's an interesting picture.

pierreyves · « **Reply #26 on:** February 11, 2008, 08:35:18 PM »

yes, something like that but darker and really black .. on this picture the black look like a dark green/gray...

adriaan · « **Reply #27 on:** February 12, 2008, 01:39:42 AM »

Pierre-Yves - you have to realize that you're looking at a computer screen showing a compressed digital photo. The average computer screen is not of the same quality as one that a graphical designer would use. Plus if you're working at those standards, you would calibrate your monitor regularly. And then the compressed digital photo could have all kinds of weirdness going on regarding the truthfulness of the colours.

It may well be that the black area in the picture is more like a dark green/gray, but your screen may also have something to do with that.

... I take that back, now that I've seen it on my own computer at home!

It actually looks more black on a bad computer screen.

(Message edited by Adriaan on February 12, 2008)

Bradley Young · « **Reply #28 on:** February 12, 2008, 12:50:39 PM »

Adriaan,

My guess is that the image is only a quick photoshop change, just to get an idea.

Bradley

pierreyves · « **Reply #29 on:** February 21, 2008, 01:48:02 PM »

Mica, please may you answer to: is it possible to tinct any dark wood to give intense and regular black color ?