BLACK SHORT SCALE serie I

[pierreyves]

Hello, to continue this old thread, my choice is now oriented to african blackwood, Dalbergia melanoxylon, the darkest as possible, with discreet pattern as shown here:  

  Core would be with the same wood, accent laminate with the whitest maple possible BUT thicker, like Stanley's basses:  

  7 Neck laminates with 3 ebony  Is it possible to have a visual simulation with pictures ?  As said in the old thread, quality of african blackwood is like or similar cocobolo, rosewood... BUT the blackwood is stronger and more dense.  One of my questions: what is difference between vermillon and blackwood for the core .. not in the sound because you never try, but on the physical caracteristics ?  I like more vermillon as mahogany for the sound, BUT, it's difficult to have a significative difference... maybe more attack, more sustain ?  (Message edited by pierreyves on January 12, 2009)

[pierreyves]

Quality of blackwood, in french:
 
quote:Dalbergia melanoxylon / appel? commun?ment /  L??b?ne du Mozambique
 
Ce bois offre, en effet, les caract?ristiques essentielles, pour ce qui est de la construction de la caisse de r?sonance et de l?esth?tique des guitares de concert et de studios, plus particuli?rement, ? savoir :                  
           
 
    * UNE SONORIT? EXCEPTIONNELLE, comparable ? celle des meilleurs bois de rose br?siliens.  
    * UNE DENSIT? EXTR?ME et CONSTANTE. Ce bois se travaille bien au burin et au ciseau. Il se plient bien et ne se fracture pas. Il permet de construire des caisses de r?sonance ? toute ?preuve, m?me ? partir de d?coupes de 2.4 mm pour le dos et de 2.0 mm pour les ?clisses.
    * UN GRAIN FIN ET SERR? qui permet d??viter tout besoin d?obturer avant l?application de la laque.
    * UNE ESTH?TIQUE ?L?GANTE, de couleur pr?dominante noire, qui permet de belles incrustations. Le bois gagnera en esth?tique avec l??ge et ne perdra pas sa couleur.
 
in english:
 
quote:Comparative tests have demonstrated that the most truthful and powerful acoustic guitars are achieved from those with the back and sides of:
 
DALBERGIA   MELANOXYLON / AFRICAN BLACKWOOD
 
This tonewood offers essential features to luthiers, aiming at building outstanding concert and studio guitars:
 
   1. Tap tone, comparable to the very best Brazilian rosewood,
   2. A very hard, structurally consistent wood of highest stability that works well under chisel and scrapper, bends well and won?t crack. Structurally very sound guitars even milled down to 2.4 mm for the back and 2.0 mm for the sides.
   3. Fine and closed grain, not requiring any filling prior to applying lacquer or shellac.
   4. Smart aesthetic, the predominant black colour of which makes inlays possible. Does age well and won?t lose colour.
 
Source web: PROSONO international
 
Nice link with nice picture of this nice wood:
 
quality of african blackwood
 
Maybe I will choose this wood in place of ebony for the neck laminates ?
 
hello, somebody here ?? I'm speaking alone .. yes all people are sleeping now !! ;o))
 
(Message edited by pierreyves on January 12, 2009)

[altgrendel]

A beautiful idea.
 
If you do this, you'll probably be better off getting the wood blank yourself and supplying it to the shop when you order your bass. I'm pretty sure if you search the site you'll find what size piece you'll need.
 
That or you can email Mica.

[pierreyves]

Hi Mica, is it possible to have simulation picture of my project, serie I with blackwood, 3 ebony neck laminate and thicker body laminates ?
Thank's
 
(Message edited by pierreyves on January 18, 2009)

[mica]

Sorry, I can't really provide a simulation of a bass. Here's something in Photoshop to roughly give you an idea:

[pierreyves]

GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGREATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!
lot of thank's, please don't close this thread, It would be my next and last bass !

[hifiguy]

Now THAT is exceptionally cool. even for an Alembic!  Put some maple or rosewood knobs on it and peg the meter, Pierre!

[David Houck]

Pierre-Yves; the threads archive (close) automatically when they reach certain thresholds of inactivity.  To keep it open, you just need to post to it from time to time to bump it back to the top of the list.

[pierreyves]

Hi big Dave, I know that but in France, if you do that, you are assimilated as spammer !!
BUMP!!!
Here are some profesionnal with Photoshop to do a nice test with nice colorisation in deep black of the red tiger ?
 

[pierreyves]

something like that but more professionnal, with a dream of wood grain ...
 

[altgrendel]

Actually, that's not bad looking. I wonder if they could do a one color finish exactly like that?

[pierreyves]

no this is too black, I would like something very dark brown, near black, with very light wood grain.
 
Like that:  
 
 

[edwin]

Macassar ebony. It would be beautiful, but heavy!
 
Edwin

[pierreyves]

Edwin, ebony is effectivly too heavy and I don't really seen something wich were peasant for me.
 
HERE IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAN'T, I think ..
Not totally black, deep color very dark brown close to black and we can see lightly wood pattern!!
 

 
(Message edited by pierreyves on February 18, 2009)

[pierreyves]

little story, from red tiger to my dream...
my dream is the right one of course!
 

 
(Message edited by pierreyves on February 19, 2009)