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jacko

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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #150 on: August 24, 2010, 01:54:14 AM »
As Wolf has said, sliding pickups have been around since the early 70's. Dan Armstrong had them, the gibson grabber had them and I seem to remember westone produced some horrendous thing where the rails were the main part of the body. However, none of these really caught on and I can't help but wonder if anyone who ever bought one bothered to change the pickup position once they found their 'sweet spot'. It's a documented fact that jack cassidy's Alembic no 1 in the pic above had sliding pickups so that Jack could experiment with where the best position for them would be, not as a tone shaping feature.
 
edit : Hal - your device is going to add several pounds to the weight of what is already a pretty heavy instrument. You may want to hire a chiropractor if it ever gets built ;-)
 
Graeme
 
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toma_hawk01

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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #151 on: August 24, 2010, 02:18:25 AM »
Sliding pickups are over 45 years old...
 
Framus guitars were probably the first guitars to have siding pickups.
 
Well what do you know... Bill Wyman of the Rolling Stone, played a Framus bass with sliding pickup in 1960's.  
 
Peace and Love,
 
Hal-
 
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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #152 on: August 24, 2010, 02:37:12 AM »
Jack, that was funny.
 
I don't even like heavy basses. This bass will be very light say under 10-lbs is fair.
 
Fretless basses don't uses frets bro.
 
 
 
Peace and Love,
 
Hal-
 
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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #153 on: August 24, 2010, 03:07:20 AM »
Hal , if there will be a  Series III is  a good question. Perhaps the answer depends on multiple reasons of R&D to develop such an instrument  based on the metamorphosis  of design and application that is driven by a customer request basis .  Perhaps this   concept might only  make sense  to me but then this is only my own rationale for such an endeavour . _____ I just be thinkin man !

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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #154 on: August 24, 2010, 06:59:25 AM »
Hal, i don't think that not having frets makes a difference in weight, i've played 2 Fender American Jazzes, one fretted other fretless, didn't make a difference, both weighed the same. as Graeme said, this is going to be a really heavy instrument when built, another thing that would be a big factor would be balance since the added weight would make the body sink more, just some thoughts
 
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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #155 on: August 24, 2010, 08:35:25 AM »
A Series III would definitely mean it would cost more, or perhaps offering things that would be considered an optional on SI or SII basses.  
 
However, with a higher price, what are the benefits?  
 
For example with cars, and how fast will it accelerated from 0-60 compared to the older models, and what are the amenities and what are the real innovations with the product?
 
I have ideas, but nobody asked.
 
Peace and Love,
 
Hal-

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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #156 on: August 24, 2010, 10:06:36 AM »
I think I am in a better position to know the actual weight of my device, and requirements than anyone don't you think?  
 
Frankly, the weight of my device is very light... How light? About 4 times lighter than a typical bridge and could be made even lighter.  
 
However, I think I know where this is going...
 
So if people are interested in the development of the Jester Bass, please send me a private email, and I will gladly discuss the challenges and successes of the making of this bass. I been through this before with nay-say'er, and there is noway I am headed down that path again. The Toma_Hawk proved me correct in every conceivable way, along with people's rush to judgments and inaccuracies.      
 
I look forward to updating people who support a more kindred spirited discussion on this topic.
 
 
Peace and Love,
 
Hal-
 
 
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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #157 on: August 24, 2010, 10:21:37 AM »
Wolf, and Mario I always welcomed your ideas, and many blessings Ived received from our discussions.
 
Thank you,
 
Hal-

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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #158 on: August 24, 2010, 10:49:39 AM »
just trying to help you realize potential issues, oh well, your money, good luck either way
 
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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #159 on: August 24, 2010, 11:34:46 AM »
Hal, Thanks . I enjoy sharing my ideas with you . It seems that we both share an enthusiasm of musical instrument innovation that encompasses both technological and aesthetic refinements.

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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #160 on: August 24, 2010, 12:19:42 PM »
Come on Taylor...
 
For something as fundamental as weight, was considered before my execution phases.  
 
Weight as a topic was deemed history -- 8 months ago.  
 
But thanks for the early notice...
 
Peace and Love,
 
Hal-

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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #161 on: August 24, 2010, 01:15:09 PM »
Wolf, I love to see fat pickups on basses.  
 
But I also love the idea discreteness, and having them under the hood to show off all that  beautiful wood, and too busy lookin good! (As Jim Kelly would say...)  
 
Peace and Love,
 
Hal-

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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #162 on: August 24, 2010, 07:37:55 PM »
Innovation isn't a simple matter of being the first to have an idea, but is to be bold enough to propose yourself to go further or even make real ideas that didn't succeed... yet, IMHO.
 
Go for it, Hal!
 
That is a stimulant proposition and Jester Bass will be, at least, an astounding tool to predict how any Alembic could sound with another PU's positioning. In fact, most of the Tone of this Bass will be setup by changing its PU location and you could even discard much of its eletronics (and weight) that way... Imagine a Bass without visible PUs or even Knobs!
 
Well, I'm day-dreaming now, ha ha ha. Thanks for sharing your dreams with us, Hal. Hope being able to see/hear Jester any time in near future. Best wishes...
Not just a bass, this is an Alembic!

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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #163 on: August 25, 2010, 05:31:26 PM »
Check this out Mario!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbjg0YJp2iA&feature=player_embedded#!
 
Peace and Love,
 
Hal-

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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #164 on: August 25, 2010, 07:07:03 PM »
Ouch, disturbing... ha ha ha
Not just a bass, this is an Alembic!