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tmoney61092

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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #135 on: August 21, 2010, 02:25:40 PM »
well also the guy who created the treatment for polio, was doing it to save peoples lives. oh well
 
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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #136 on: August 21, 2010, 03:05:46 PM »
Taylor,
 
People are way too hard to please. I just design things I know I'll love and cherish.  
 
Peace and Love,
 
Hal-

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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #137 on: August 21, 2010, 06:56:35 PM »
By the way Taylor, the best way to sell something to industry is to attach your signature.  
 
A patent only protects you for 20 years, but a signature is authenticity that last forever.
 
Thus when it comes to art, authenticity is the ticket.  
 
One more thing, patent are confined to only the one physical design, when all it takes is one slight change, you are no longer protected.  
 
Stanley Clarke patented his Spellbinder basses, without realizing these cold harden facts, but figured industry would buy those basses in bulk...  
 
In the end, its a lesson.  
 
Peace and Love,
 
Hal-
 
 
 
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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #138 on: August 22, 2010, 07:38:11 AM »
Design change...
 
I changed the crown to point upward, in honor of Jimi Hendrix.
 
 

 
Peace and Love,
 
Hal-

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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #139 on: August 22, 2010, 09:36:58 AM »
Perfected!
 
The first knob controls the pickup plate (used for holding the pickup) moves the plate, from left to right, and back to left again successfully.
 
The second knob moves the pickup height, from base platform -- to up or higher position, and back down again. The potential height adjustments, doubles the total base height with any pickup I used.
 
There it is:  
 
8 months, and two days ago, I discussed this new concept on Alembic.com as a theoretical mind tease for my new fretless bass called the Jester.  
 
As it stands now, there's absolutely no doubt, or any reasons in my mind, why my solution could not be applied to my new custom basses.
 
For the sake of saving space with knobs, I am working out a method to integrate everything (pickup move left/right and up/down) from only one knob. I see no major feat here...
 
T -10
 
Peace and Love,
 
Hal-
 
 
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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #140 on: August 22, 2010, 10:05:26 AM »
if you could make a push/pull knob that could control, like the pushed in control the left and right, and the pulled be the height adjustment
 
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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #141 on: August 22, 2010, 10:38:15 AM »
Correct Taylor.
 
There's a three way control on one knob I would like to consider:
 
1. Base floor- no control (neutral).
 
2. First Floor (pull up, first click), adjusts and controls pickups from left to right, and back... (Height adjustment are in neutral(inactive).)
 
3. Third Floor (pull up, second click), adjusts and controls the pickup heights from down to up, and back... (Sliding adjustment, are in neutral (inactive) .)
 
Peace and Love,
 
Hal-
 
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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #142 on: August 22, 2010, 04:08:47 PM »
Thank GOD for Bill Wyman of the Rolling Stones!
 
Bill invented and played the first electric fretless bass guitar. The year was 1961.  
 
Something as simple as removing frets, was strange to people, but not to Bill, and this simple feat would lead to a very important step for electric fretless bass guitars around the world.  
 
I dedicate this build, to Bill Wyman, and Jaco Pastorius for both of these men physically removed their frets, from what -- everything there were!
 
Oh my goodness, those guy should be awarded their PhD too!
 
 
Peace and Love,
 
Hal-
 
 
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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #143 on: August 23, 2010, 02:14:22 AM »
All steel parts. (Proof of concept...)
 

 
Peace and Love,
 
Hal-
 
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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #144 on: August 23, 2010, 03:08:37 AM »
That's cool Hal . Just Like an old radio dial linkage for the  variable  capacitor frequency indicator .
 
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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #145 on: August 23, 2010, 06:41:29 AM »
2 cents...
 
There is no way to maintain it free moving Hal?
 
I mean, keep it in place just when you hit desired spot with some kind of clutch, but permit it to slip in rails freely until that. It would be quicker to set up its position this way.
 
Although using screws would be more precise and firm, finding its right place using screws seems will be as hard as adjusting a truss rod, don't you think?
Not just a bass, this is an Alembic!

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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #146 on: August 23, 2010, 09:02:38 AM »
Thanks Wolf,  
 
I was hoping you chime in for we talked about sliding picks last year on the Toma_Hawk build.  
 
I remember us reviewing other sliding pickups, and personally for me, I never stopped thinking about how one could be made, in tighter and smaller areas, and use knobs for making adjustments.
 
Mario, the tension from the tightly fastened wired cables does not move in any direction until you either do two things: physically move the pickup plates, or turn the knobs.  
 
I even placed heaver objects (heavier than alembic pickups) on the plates, and everything worked fine, and without any unwarranted movements.  
 
Also, when you look at this from the perspective of playing a bass, the rails are in the most neutral, and favorable position -- following  
the direction of the neck...
 
With this earlier proof of concept version, I was able to make more iterations that improved the system, which enhanced my experiences, to  sharpen the knob turns to a more granular as a professional tool should be.
 
I am also working with a third party, to customize my sprockets and belt systems, including a choice of knobs which click locks and a one knob, control both or all system.
 
So, it really comes down to the knob system now.  
 
The height system works really great too. That was the most challenging piece, and very useful.
 
The Great Bill Cosby said: ... in order to fulfill a dream, you must first wake up...
 
 
All comments are welcome  
 
 
Peace and Love,
 
Hal-
 
 
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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #147 on: August 23, 2010, 05:34:46 PM »
Oh wow, I'll follow that topic closer from now on...
 
Hope you fulfill this new dream soon, Hal.
 
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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #148 on: August 23, 2010, 11:38:43 PM »
Thanks Mario,  
 
I know there are all kinds of ways to make something work.  
 
I also understand, why people are very comfortable with fixed pickups system. I can honestly say, I love fixed pickup ideas too, however, I am looking forward to a newer satisfaction, which fixed pickups didn't solve.
 
I totally understand the facts behind fixed pickup systems. I am also emotionally attached to our beloved heritage, their world-wide appeal and the unparalleled esteem to a legacy of proven musical accolades, dawning an unthinkable number of awards for over 50 years.  
 
However, for me, it's time for a change. I believe floating pickups, will be the future. It's just that simple.  
 
I understand, Human emotions are greater than logic and reasoning. Most people act greatly and righteously for mainly emotional reasons. This is a good thing, and it's what makes us human.  
 
But I believe it becomes a bad thing, when we prevent ourselves from learning new ways, and new things.      
 
Some of the greatest ideas, will never breath the light of day, because of the powers of suggestions of commercial media, along with peoples cultural normality.  
 
In the 80's, Apple Computer commercial suggested people are hurled like cattle or programmed to only trust the familiar, and/or nothing new.  
 
However today, Apple users are so loyal some would compare them as a cult -- and to ever think of Apple consumers using anything else, is almost a sacrilege of the creed.  
 
However, what keeps Apple a float in maintaining their loyalty, is their abilities to upgrade their devices with new innovations. Without this, Apple wouldn't be Apple. Also, if you examine the concepts on their devices, you'd probably already realized the concept(s)years ago. In other-words, Apple didn't innovate anything new, they only validated your old concepts into reality.  
 
However the real question is:  
 
Why do we allow or provide a more favorable business environment for new innovations, as if these innovations would leads us into a brighter future full of hopes and dreams, and condemn other innovations in the opposite light as something to be feared, because it challenges our cultural values and norms.  
 
Should only ideas survive, if it supports only a limited cultural perspective?  
 
For example:  
 
When entering a Costco store, the first thing you see, are those wonderful flat screen TVs. Man those sets are crystal clear, and beautifully displayed with such exquisite color and shapes that spells Modern all over the chassis. The speakers hit you from every direction too.  
 
In a spit second, you'll might imagine yourself looking into the bright future of owning that modern TV you'd set your eyes on, or maybe you might not feel the need to buy a current model at the present time, but found word, there was something else (more advanced, and more futuristic) of worthy, replacing your older unit and, at a more affordable price.  
 
Why do we subconsciously approve and welcome TV innovations, and not approve or welcome change or innovations in the same light on guitars?
 
Are there technological bias for guitars?
 
I understand what a series I and II is about, with Alembic basses being already still so far ahead of the game, is there still a need to support a series III?
 
Tough questions here...
 
Peace and Love,
 
Hal-
 
 
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Re: Hal's Future Jester Bass
« Reply #149 on: August 24, 2010, 12:43:01 AM »
In all honesty sliding pick ups have been around for a few decades.
 
 I have an old friend who has a 2 Basses that have sliding pick ups. One of them has Alembic pick ups and electronics. I can  not post the image with out permission but I will ask . Their are others out there as well that have sucessfully mounted sliding  pick ups. I believe Hal posted one or more him self.  
 Here is another example that has Alembic Pick ups & electroincs that is on the web  ;  72-01  has sliding pick ups as you all know.
 And there are a few others ;
http://www.prairiesun.com/Guitars/Dragon.html