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« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2008, 03:03:13 PM »
If you buy the omega and you don't like it let me know. Can always use another banger. They don't come up often and I'd suspect there is a premimum. If the guitar plays and the finish is in good condition i'd say you're getting a great deal. If you dont think so send me a pic and I'll buy it. The spray that you can get at guitar center is fine for the finish if it has a lacquer (shiney) finish. It is mostly water. Just water and a clean cotton rag. The lemonn oil is for the fretboard only. And I know I'm likely alone on this one, but leave the tarnish on the brass and just degrease the frets. It doesn't need to look like it was made yesterday.better 30 years ago and mint.
 
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« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2008, 03:15:54 PM »
The power supplies come up on ebay about 1/month it seems. 3-500 bucks to answer your question. It is a small blue box with the din input and two 1/4 inch outputs. thats about it. Plugs into 110. If you don't have a cable dela217 may have one. They're great.
 
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« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2008, 06:17:26 AM »
Thanks again to everyone for the great information.  I feel very lucky to have found this guitar, and just importantly, this site.  There is such a huge amount of knowledge among you all.  I have never experienced anything like it.  Barry I will certainly post some pictures real soon.  She should be mine by the end of the day.  I have to get her cleaned up and ready for her photo shoot.

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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2008, 07:20:08 AM »
Carl,
Have a great time getting her home today!  Can't wait to see some pictures too.  Congratulations!
Play it Healthy!
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« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2008, 07:49:08 AM »
Take pics of it as is too, before you clean it up - might make for some nice before & after shots. Looking forwards to seeing (and hearing?) it!

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« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2008, 07:59:50 AM »
Thanks to all.

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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2008, 04:49:44 PM »
Hello all:
I am very frustrated at this point.  Harold has increased his selling price to $3000.  He said he took it to a store in Nashville over the weekend and was told it was a $12000 guitar!  He said his son told him he could easily get $4000 for it.  By the way Dave, it has 5 knobs and four switches.  Two of the switches are silver and two are black.  I took my checkbook with me ready to make the purchase.  Then he decides to add another $200 to the price we agreed on.  He never mentioned the increase over the phone. It does come with a hard case and the blue box power supply and cable.  He also has a thin brown brochure he calls the owner?s manual.  I told him he should have sold it to the guy in Nashville for $12000!  He said he wanted me to have first choice.  I thought I had already bought it.  We live an hour or so apart and I am beginning to think he is wasting my time and gas. I have aged a 2 years in four days.  I don't want to pass on this guitar, but I really don't know what I am doing.  I told him to give me until Friday.  I did not leave additional cash.  He has a $50 deposit already. I wish I had taken my camera with me.  But I did not see the need because I thought the baby was mine.  Any suggestions at this point? He said the box used to work but now there is some sort of short in it. How can this be repaired?  Do I have to send it in to Mica?  Am I now looking at a $500 repair/replace bill?  How important is the blue box?  Any advice would be appreciated.  I sure would like to know the history of the guitar, type of wood original owner.   It has been well maintained.  But, I wasn?t hooked until I found this forum.  The Alembics are awesome.  I give kudos to the Wickersham family and Alembic staff.  But I am becoming a little nervous at this point.  How much is too much.  I have lost a lot faith I never should have had in the seller.
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« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2008, 05:37:23 PM »
Carl; first off, breath.  Maybe go out on the porch and breath some of that crisp Kentucky air.
 
Bill, who posted above, watches the used guitar market closely, so I think his opinion is worth considering.  He stated that if the guitar you're looking at is in good shape, $2800 isn't unreasonable, even without a power supply, but I wouldn't go much higher.  Now, the guitar you are looking at does have the power supply; so I'm thinking the $3,000 amount is still reasonable.
 
Now you've mentioned that you've been told that the power supply has some sort of short.  With knowing any more about the problem than that, my guess is that a short should be easily repairable by a qualified guitar amp repair person.  One reason Alembic power supplies are expensive is that Alembic only uses high quality mil-spec parts; but the power supply circuitry itself is not overly complex, and a local qualified tech should be able to sort it out quickly and easily.  If the tech determines that a part needs to be replaced, they can probably get the part shipped from Alembic.
 
Oh, and Series instruments, when run without the power supply, go through batteries fairly quickly; so yes, the power supply is necessary.
 
Now what intrigues me is that this guitar has four switches.  If this guitar has not been altered but is all original, then this suggests to me that perhaps this guitar has what are known as mellow filters.  These appear to be fairly rare, I haven't seen many show up here on our discussion board.  So, if this is indeed the case, then I would tend to think that this makes the guitar just a little more special than it already is.

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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2008, 05:55:54 PM »
Caveats.
 
I'm a bass player, not a guitar player.
 
I'm not objective; I have no desire to own or play anything other than my Alembic Series bass.
 
Although my username has moderator underneath, my opinions are my own.  I'm not a luthier, and what little bit of knowledge I have about these instruments has for the most part been gathered from my fellow club members here at the Alembic forum.
 
And all I know about the guitar you're looking at is what you've written here.  In my very biased view, if it's not all original, if two of those switches are not original but were added later my someone other than Alembic, than that for me changes everything.  But if it's all original, if the guitar is in excellent condition, it's got the case, and if the only thing wrong with the power supply is a short, then if it were me, I think I would be going for it.  But then again, I'm a bass player; what do I know?

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« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2008, 06:06:02 PM »
Whats the chance that the seller has a digital camera. A quick look by most any of us would tell you what you got. It's a lot of dough I know but with the original case, power supply, omega cut and if real mellow filters (take a shot inside of the guitar cavity too) you'd have a huge deal I think!!

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« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2008, 06:09:51 PM »
Sorry, let me add... the retailer isn't your competition. If he paid what you have to pay for it, he will hold it for a long time cause he can't afford to break even unless it is a real real real deal with all the bells and whistles proven...and then it would sit for a while. Shit... the bass player from the doobies bass has been on guitarbase for a year or so at $6k and I don't see anyone beating that door down.

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« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2008, 04:40:02 AM »
Lots of people will quote what the instrument would cost if you had a new one built by Alembic. This is irrelevant since it does not reflect the used market price for Alembic instruments. It is well known that new Alembics take a large hit in resale value (and I have one on order by the way). Used instruments hold their value very well.  
 
I have also heard of some folks using a pricing guide to determine price. From what I have seen these guides over price the instruments and do not reflect the real market for Alembics.  
 
As has been said the priced being asked is reasonable for a used instrument of this age. This is assuming it is all original or any modifications were made by Alembic.  
 
While, IMO, it is unethical to ask for more after the price was agreed to, $200 is not that much more in the scheme of things. You have to decide whether the instrument is worth enough to you to still purchase it or wait for another.    
 
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« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2008, 07:04:35 AM »
Carl:
 
I agree with the above.  The blue box should be an easy fix, I would imagine.  I wouldn't be surprised if Mica at Alembic can walk you through it without even having to send it in to Santa Rosa.  The extra switches do cause me a little concern, but if they are stock mellow filters, you have a real find.  I've never seen an Alembic guitar with these mythical filters.  $3000 with the blue box, 5-pin cable, and case, is still a reasonable price.  I certainly wouldn't let the extra $200 deter me.  While the store in Nashville might have said $12,000, I'd bet dollars to doughnuts they didn't offer that price, or the guitar would have been sold before you got there.  Someone who bumps the price up, even $200, after making an agreement, isn't going to forgo $9000 for principal.  And, by the way, a new Series I starts at $13,500 retail without any extras.  But it's like a new car.  Once you drive it off the lot, the price you can sell it for will be much less.  Pictures would certainly help us here at the club in offering more detailed advice.  You might also try giving Alembic a call and asking if they have any info on this guitar based on the serial number.  They might be able to tell you if the extra switches are stock or a mod.  If you keep looking, it may take quite a while to find another and, IMHO, you're unlikely to get a price that much better than the guy is asking.  Hope this helps.
 
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« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2008, 07:38:06 AM »
Hello again everyone:  
Thank you all for the help and advice. I am a lot calmer now. I spoke to the seller and he said his son would take some pictures and email them to me. I will get them posted here as soon as possible.  So you all or y'all as we say it, can help me determine if it is original or modified, genuine or fake for that matter.  I hope all is legit and we can get on with the sell.  The anticipation was getting the best of me.  In my book a deal is a deal.  The stores around here didn?t want to give him what he wanted, the Taylor guitar or the cash.  So why drive to Nashville?  I agree that if anyone there would have offered him any amount over my price.  He would have jumped on it without any regards to me.  His son is probably behind the price increase.  I have never met him; he did tell me his grandson plays guitar some.  So, I was thinking he had changed his mind about selling it to me and raised the price to send me packing.
 
Thanks again
Carl

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« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2008, 10:54:27 AM »
Good luck Carl, fingers crossed you have her soon and can share the pics with us!
 
John.