Author Topic: Show Of Hands (Read 1680 times)

slawie · « **Reply #30 on:** March 29, 2015, 03:55:31 PM »

oh for goodness sake double post!

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slawie · « **Reply #31 on:** March 29, 2015, 04:00:33 PM »

triple post

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rustyg61 · « **Reply #32 on:** March 30, 2015, 02:56:49 AM »

Slawie, no worries on the deviation, in fact I read something of interest in your post, what QSC do you have? I just bought a GX7a yesterday & love it! It weighs less than half what my Eden WT800 weighs & has more than twice the wattage!

I never thought about jumpering the inputs on the F-2B like that, great idea!

slawie · « **Reply #33 on:** March 30, 2015, 02:21:09 PM »

Hey Rusty,
The amp is a PLX1804
It's not capable of bridging or going down to 2ohms
Lowest is 4ohms hence the name.
It's a solidly built amp however the fan is a trifle loud.
And the airflow blows out the front.
It's a little chilly if you are standing in front of your rig with shorts on.
Now there's a mental picture I'm sure no one really wanted.
slawie

rustyg61 · « **Reply #34 on:** March 31, 2015, 02:52:29 AM »

Hey Slawie, my GX7 doesn't have bridge mode either, but it is 800 watts into 8 ohms & 1200 into 4 ohms, so that is more than enough power for my Accugroove Wedgie. My fan blows out the front too, but it is not loud & doesn't blow that hard. The fan on my Eden WT 800 was very loud!

moongerm · « **Reply #35 on:** March 31, 2015, 05:18:35 AM »

This is a great discussion and one that is influencing me to also forego the use of my Acoustic Image Focus 2 amp and go with a QSC GXD 4 or 8. Rusty, Did you take a look or even listen to the difference of the GX7 and the new GXD with DSP? Seems like the GXD could be more flexible with all of the settings options, e.g. parametric eq?

-Brian

rustyg61 · « **Reply #36 on:** March 31, 2015, 07:00:48 AM »

Brian, I didn't test drive any of the QSC amps, but my band has used QSC on our PA for 15 years so I knew they were good amps. I would not have wanted a GXD with additional signal processing though, that is what I was trying to get away from by getting the F-2B & retiring my Eden WT 800. The Eden had 9 controls to alter the EQ & the F-2B has 3 & sounds much better than the Eden! I have an SF-2 also, so I have all the signal processing I will ever need. That is the beauty of the F-2B, it gets an incredible sound with very little tweaking. The Eden sounded good but had way too many variables to deal with.

moongerm · « **Reply #37 on:** March 31, 2015, 07:36:48 AM »

Good point Rusty, Thanks. I also see the fear with the DSP alternative adding coloration or the potential for added noise on top of another set of controls to putz around with. I suppose if the DSP is clean and if ran flat and sounds similar to the Gx7 it might be worth a shot. Otherwise I may follow the same path as you.

moongerm · « **Reply #38 on:** April 07, 2015, 07:27:56 AM »

Hey Rusty, Just wanted to let you know that I picked up the QSC GX7. It sounds great! Simple is better as you mentioned. Thanks for sharing the knowledge and feedback.

-Brian

rustyg61 · « **Reply #39 on:** April 07, 2015, 05:38:28 PM »

Hey Brian, congrats on the new amp! I played my first gig with the QSC Saturday night & it sounded great! My guitar player even commented on how good my rig sounded & he is usually the one who tells me to turn down! I love the indented gain controls on the QSC, I went up one click at one point in the set & it was just what I needed. I still haven't hooked up my rig in stereo but I plan to do that this week. It sounds pretty amazing in mono with the Accugroove Wedgie!

moongerm · « **Reply #40 on:** April 07, 2015, 10:03:15 PM »

That is some guitar player you work with lol! I only experimented in the house with it thus far. In complete fear I am going to blow some speakers I kept the volume controls at 12 o'clock on the GX7 and I have 3 different 400 watt 8 ohm speakers (Markbass 2-10, PJB 4x5, Aguilar 1-12, plus a 600 watt Accugroove 2x10+6 cab (8 or 4 ohms) I can mix and match. So the next step is to see what speaker combos will work good together in stereo.

I ran it in stereo using my Anniversary electronics and it is sooo much better than mono. Can't wait to play it live. I am also using 2 F1X preamps, one for each pickup.

jazzyvee · « **Reply #41 on:** April 07, 2015, 10:46:50 PM »

I run my QSC with the gain controls at maximum and keep the F1-x quite low and play lightly and that works well for me and keeps everything clean.

rustyg61 · « **Reply #42 on:** April 08, 2015, 12:42:00 AM »

I started the gig with my QSC at 12:00, then went up one click midway through the show. Are any of you running a compressor with your rigs? I talked to Mark at Accugroove & he said they weren't necessary, but I had one on my Eden head & my Rumble. I haven't had any problem with my Wedgie distorting, so I guess I'm not hitting it too hard. Mark also recommended a power amp with twice the wattage as the cabinet rating so you don't have to push the amp hard. He said you are more likely to blow a speaker by clipping the amp than by sending too much wattage to the cabinet. The Wedgie is rated for 400 watts at 8 ohms & the QSC is 800 watts into 8 ohms when running just one side of it, which is what I'm doing right now. It is 725 watts into 8 ohms using both channels. I'm going to sell my Eden boxes & get either an Accugroove El Whappo (15/12/6/dual tweeter), or a Tri 115 (15/6/dual tweeter) then I can run in stereo if I want to. I bought a Radial Engineering dual direct box so I can send a stereo signal to the PA. Right now I just use one side of it.

jazzyvee · « **Reply #43 on:** April 08, 2015, 08:01:14 AM »

Mostly I use one side of the QSC with either one or two 8 ohm cabs. I have tried a couple of rack mount and a Boss pedal compressors in the past and didn't like the results. They were all too noisy and I also couldn't set it right. I really wanted to use it as a limiter to stop me ripping my speaker cones but I couldn't get on with the added hiss.
I too have a Radial Engineering passive Dual di and only used it for recording so far and it's a great tool.

moongerm · « **Reply #44 on:** April 08, 2015, 02:52:56 PM »

Don't use compression live unless it is for an effect on a specific tune that calls for it. The Eventide H9 has a neat compressor btw but may add hiss. I must check out that dual Radial di, good tip Jazzy and Rusty. Thanks again!