Show Of Hands

[slawie]

Show of Hands, here you go!  

  No really here it is;  

[slawie]

Or this;
 

 
slawie

[bigredbass]

As luck would have it . . . . so I'm in the 'gee, what about one of those?' new amp modes.  Since I'm not gigging any more, the preamp/power amp thing would be a little much for the spare bedroom.  So slawie, give me the lowdown on the RH750 and the TC cabs.
 
Joey

[elwoodblue]

The F1-x pre/power amp thing, driving a 2225 JBL
in a way stiff PA cab (and 10's or a 12 for the highs) is what got my goat.
  I don't have a series bass so I'm using the F1x crossover to split the signal.
 Someday I'll have a Stereo Alembic again and I'll never leave the spare bedroom
 
 
 
 

[slawie]

The RH750 is a great amp but it takes some effort to learn how to get the best sounds out of it.
Once you do though, you can save the complete amp settings to three individual memory locations(sans Master volume), recallable via a footswitch 4 button 3 memory plus mute with a tuner display.
 
Great for live performing where you need your amp to assist in snap to it tone shaping.  
 
Centre frequency variable
Bass: 70-1120 Hz mid detent @280
Lo-mid: 100-1600 Hz mid detent @400
Hi-mid: 200 - 3150 Hz mid detent @800
Treble: 400 - 6300 Hz mid detent @1600
If you are plying at a venue that is boomy or rattles at certain frequencies you can easily dial those frequencies out.
 
Spectracomp works really well and flattens out any variations in string response. Its a multiband compressor. I have it just ever so slightly enabled.
 
Tubetone is and tube emulator circuit befitting vintage fenders J and P basses you can crank it for that unique articulated frrt sound
 
Tweetertone I don't use it. I believe its used so that you don't need to reach behind the speaker cab to tweak the pot.
 
Preset level is when your memory settings vary and you wish to keep the same levels. very handy.
 
Out the back there is Transformer balanced output pre and post switchable, digital out, effects send/receive, headphone jack (kills the speaker out), device input through L/R RCA jacks connect your ipad or turntable output and you can play along with anything. This is the best for those sleepless late nights where inspiration hits for some practice.
 
I think that it's a bit of a tweakers amp someone who wishes to electronically manipulate their sound signal and throw traditional amplification methods and caution to the wind.
 
ICE power output stage. with low wattage 236 actual watts. The output stage is manipulated so that there is greater efficiency in the heard signal that filters out those frequencies that cause only heat and effort to amplify with no audio advantage.
 
Really great device for recording.
 
The cabs fit well with the amp it's almost as if they were made for each other - go figure.
Seriously though they are perfectly suited as a rig. There must have been a serious amount of R&D gone into them.
 
The shape is a bit funky really do not want to stack more than 2 high on stage because of the curved corners creating smaller footprint that its width feels a little unstable at 3 high.  
With the RH750 you can have 3 cabs by TC connected at the one time. Best to have them on their sides.
 
I have 2 x 210's and 2 x 212's and use them in various configurations depending upon the stage and venue.
The paint is a bit rough on the knuckles(older ones that is)newer cabs are shiny and knuckle friendly.
 
It's a really versatile amp that can generate great and also unusual tones.  
I apologise in advance that; I've had my fretless sounding like a trombone using no outside effects.  
 
slawie

[rustyg61]

Thanks for all the replies, advice, & pictures! I love pictures! :-)  
 
Joey, you are absolutely right about the power amp, my Eden has the option to tie into the power amp either pre or post EQ, & I initially hooked up the F-2B post EQ not wanting to have the Eden EQ color the sound, but I decided to experiment & hooked it up pre EQ, but set the EQ flat on the Eden. There was a huge difference in the sound! going through the Eden EQ it sucked the life out of the sound! It was like putting a pillow in front of the speaker! So I am absolutely going to sell the Eden & get a regular power amp. I won't be getting another 410 box though. I just got an Accugroove Wedgie cabinet yesterday & now my rig sounds even more amazing! The Wedgie is a wedge shaped floor monitor with a 12/6/2 soft dome tweeter 3 way design. http://www.accugroovellc.com/#!wedgie/crn5
 
It is like a studio monitor for live sound. My band just went to in ear monitors so we are trying to reduce stage volume & the Wedgie is perfect for what I need! We had practice last night & it sounded amazing! It cut through the 2 guitar/drum sound & I could hear every note! I blended in the mix like a CD & could play softer & still hear what I was playing.
 
I called Mica yesterday with some questions about the F-2B & she answered all of them, but let me throw one of them out to y'all & see what you are doing. Do you run with the volume control higher & the tone controls lower, or the tone higher & the volume lower, or does it matter? I have tried it both ways & have not heard any distortion either way. I have yet to have the power amp volume over 2! I told Mica, I have not hooked it up in stereo yet, I'm not sure my  brain is ready for that sensory overload yet! It sounds so incredible in mono, I imagine that stereo will be like dropping acid! I will probably see all kinds of psychedelic colors & pink elephants & stuff! LOL! I do plan to sell my entire Eden rig & buy an Accugroove El Whappo for outdoor gigs, so I will have the speakers to go stereo if I want to.
 
Jazzyvee, to answer your question, I got here as quick as I could! When I first got back to playing again after quitting for 12 years due to my job, I needed a new amp & at the time everyone was singing the praises of Eden, so I thought having their flagship amp, the WT800, I had top of the line professional gear. I was SO wrong! Eden makes great stuff, but it pales in comparison to Alembic!
 
David, I highly recommend that you sell all your gear & get an Alembic preamp! You will NOT be disappointed!
 
Pete, no hijack at all! We are all here to help each other, which is why I started this post, to tell everyone how AMAZING the F-2B is! Like you, I thought my Eden was top notch gear too until I played through the F-2B! The only advice I can give you is if you get a F-2B or F-1X, don't even bother with a micro amp, get a light weight power amp. You won't need the signal processing of a micro amp with an Allembic preamp. For light weight cabinets I highly recommend checking out the Accugrooves! My Wedgie weighs just under 30 pounds. If you don't want the floor monitor version, they have the same speakers in a traditional square box too along with several other models with multiple speaker combinations. All of them use neo speakers & are light weight. Their largest cabinet, the El Whappo has a 15/12/6/ 2 tweeter 4 way combination, & it is only 58 pounds. My Fender Rumble combo amp I've been using weighs 65 pounds!
 
Chalie, glad you got your cable parts ordered. What cable did you wind up going with?
 
Hankster, Resistance is futile! Keeping GAS pent up inside you is never a good thing!
 
I have my 1st gig with the new rig tomorrow night, I'll let you know how it sounds.

[5a_quilt_top]

Rusty - it'll be coming eventually, but some other things have to be sorted out first. It's an integral part of a bigger picture - an organic whole if you will.
 
Since you've been to the Mothership, you probably get the picture.

[bigredbass]

Thanks a lot Slawie.  I had tried one in a store and was unimpressed, and was amazed I wasn't.  I've used TC outboard gear and just could not imagine that they missed by a mile with a bass head and cabinets.  I researched the amp and downloaded the owner's manual, where I found out about being able to shift the center frequencies of the four EQ rotaries.  Obviously, the factory defaults (or more likely somebody at the store screwed with the one I tried) didn't suit, so I'll go back now that I know how to shift to taste and then we'll see.  Really appreciate the feedback, Thanks !
 
Joey

[charles_holmes]

Hey Rusty,
I'm pretty sure that your gig went well & you received plenty of positive comments about the sound! I went with the Canare LE6S Star Quad Red cable. I'll take a photo of my rig and post it for you. Or you can look up Chalie's Slim Rig.

[rustyg61]

Chalie, I did a search for your slim rig but it timed out before finding the post. I'm sure you will like the Canare, I love mine! It is very flexible. Having the colored wire not only looks cool, but it is easier to see & not step on while you are playing.
 
My gig is tonight so I'll post on how the amp sounded later.

[rustyg61]

Chalie, I did a search for your slim rig but it timed out before finding the post. I'm sure you will like the Canare, I love mine! It is very flexible. Having the colored wire not only looks cool, but it is easier to see & not step on while you are playing.

[hankster]

Slawie, dumb question, but where do you take the signal in on the TC  from the off board Alembic preamp?  I use a TC and this idea interests me

[hankster]

Slawie, dumb question, but where do you take the signal in on the TC  from the off board Alembic preamp?  I use a TC and this idea interests me

[hankster]

Sorry for double post.

[slawie]

Rusty, firstly apologies for the thread hijack.
 
Joey, turning the amp on while holding down the Memory 1,2 & 3 buttons resets them to all to default.
You can reset individual or multiple 1, 2 or 3 memories depending upon which buttons you hold down during power-up.
 
Attached is the full freq map. Note: this is not a Times Square personality list.
 
 
 
My all time favourite way to configure my rig is as per below. I have a QSC amp which is way lighter than the Soniq power amp I also have.
This is shown set up for use with my Essence so that I get sound out of each side with a mono bass through the QSC power amp Plug a non-series bass into channel 1 of F2-B. Note the jumper lead from channel 1 to channel 2. Output from the F2-B
1 to left channel and 2 to right channel of power amp.
 
 
 
Richard,
It is possible to take the M output from the F2-B to either the front input of the TC This gives the option to mess with the TC preamp settings (and input gain)or; into the back at the send/receive port into the receive port to utilise only the output stage of the amp. I have used both methods and have a preference to connect to the input on the front of the amp to manipulate  the signal processing.
 
Rusty is absolutely correct about the use of a dedicated power amp with the whole of the signal range being generated by Alembic basses making it to the output stage and ultimately to the audience.
 
Rusty. Sorry once again for the deviation from the thread theme.