Author Topic: Show Of Hands  (Read 1658 times)

rustyg61

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« on: March 25, 2015, 07:36:09 PM »
How many of you have had the life changing pleasure of playing your Alembic through an Alembic preamp?
 
I bought a F-2B today & OH MY GOD!!! THIS is what an Alembic is supposed to sound like!!! I knew my Alembics sounded great with my Eden & Fender Rumble, but I was ignorant in my understanding of what great really is! I feel like a blind man who just got his sight! My 410 Eden box sounds like the Wall Of Sound! Not only does the F-2B make my basses sound beyond amazing, everything on them is enhanced! The filters & CVQ's are like they are on steroids now, SO MUCH more responsive!! The 9 tone shaping controls on my Eden WT 800 do not even come close to what the 3 knobs on the F-2B do!! My SF-2 is breathing easier now too as it is doing MUCH less work to shape my sound. I still use it, but instead of having the filter gain on 6 or 7, I have them on 2! I ordered an Accugroove Wedgie that I'm getting tomorrow, so my sound is going to get even better!
 
So, for all you people who, like myself, had never played through an Alembic preamp, do not delay, call your favorite Alembic dealer right now & have them rush you one over immediately! You will thank me for it, trust me!!!!
 
Mica, y'all should raise the price of all your instruments & include a preamp with every purchase! Without it, you are only getting half the potential of these incredible instruments!
 
Anyone wanna buy an Eden rig???!! LOL!
Rusty
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elwoodblue

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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2015, 07:43:36 PM »
Living and learning can REALLY be fun !!
nice post ; )
 
elwood

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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2015, 08:28:27 PM »
Glad it found a good home. If you're ever in Austin I'd love to hear it

rustyg61

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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2015, 08:57:48 PM »
Bill, I'm surprised you didn't hear it in Austin form Pasadena! This thing is loud & clear!
Rusty
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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2015, 09:53:18 PM »
Run your axe and the F2B/SuperFilter stack thru a power amp, then call us back.
 
You've just run headfirst into the difference between instrument amps and professional gear.  Remember, even good bass or guitar amps are generally built with 5-10% distortion, as our ears process this as 'warmth', and for most people, it is.  Free yourself from these kinds of amps, and step off into pro gear (you're 2/3 of the way there) and you're dealing with distortion and all the other specs typical in that realm:  Even the most el-cheapo, bingo-calling power amp is looking at distortion below 1%.  Now for some people, this is 'sterile', but for others, you suddenly feel like the earmuffs have been taken off.  
 
Couple what you have now with a 500 or 1000 watt a side QSC, a Crown, hell, even a CS800, where those low notes don't even raise an eyebrow on the amp, in other words, the classic 'great big amp only turned up to 2', and believe me, your Eden will become a nice paperweight. That really is the only way to truly do the Series (or any Alembic) justice, the way Ron intended so long ago.  He's still right.
 
Once you have this rig assembled, you can also do what Jimmy does, another thing Ron envisioned:  You can do an utterly minimalist rig:  Straight out of the power supply into the power amp, where you REALLY, really are hearing it 'straight off the wellhead' to use a Pasadena-esque bit of vernacular (whereby I'm proving you can take the boy out of the oilfield trash, but you can't take the oilfield trash out of the boy.  You non-Texans, you'll just have to wonder about this . . . ) And then with a power amp and a second Eden 410, you can run stereo, etc.  All in hi-fi.
 
Consider yourself warned.
 
Joey

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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2015, 10:45:22 PM »
I use mine in the signal chain for recording bass and other things quite a bit. It adds a nice tube fullness.

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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2015, 12:57:18 AM »
Welcome to the club Rusty, what took you so long.... :-)
I was influenced by this club to look down this path and I've been using an F1-x, SF-2 and QSC power amp for a good few years now and I'm in agreement with Joey, there is a huge difference between that and a bass head. Most of the controls on bass heads just confuse me. F1-x is real simple to use. When I use that rig I'm running two F1-x's when using a series bass and using the power amp to put a combined mono signal to usually one cab.  
 
Report back when you gig your new setup.
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jon_jackson

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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2015, 05:01:16 AM »
Once you go F, it's hard to go back.
Jon
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moongerm

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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2015, 05:23:49 AM »
Great to hear you dig the F2B!

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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2015, 06:24:47 AM »
I have an older blue and black F2B with red cap knobs and completely agree!  I didn't know what I was missing until playing thru this lovely preamp.

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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2015, 08:29:53 AM »
Tried one at the Mothership with one of the 5-strings hanging on the lobby wall. The preamp was part of a larger rig.
 
Yup - amazing.
 
In fact, the whole rig sounded amazing.
 
One day I will lay my hands on one. And then I will sell all my other bass gear...
 
Glad to hear you are knocked out.

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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2015, 09:03:58 AM »
This is a topic that I have been thinking about for awhile now.
I realize this is a biased post. (Rightfully so, everything Alembic is top notch) right now I have a Distillate or a Series 1 going into an SF-2 to a Mesa Walkabout Scout 12. The Mesa has a tube pre and as far as I can tell is pretty awesome.  
The down side I'm not getting any younger and even though the amp is 50 lbs, on days I wish it 30 ;) .  
I really like what I hear, so the question is what would I gain from let's say an Alembic pre to a micro amp to a light cab From what I have now?  
Realizing very subjective. Not trying to hijack just curious. Moderators I could start a new post if it is.
Thank you,
Pete

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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2015, 09:37:26 AM »
I also very much enjoy playing through an Alembic preamp! Very easy to use, and my F1-X produces an awesome tone every time I plug into it (mostly with Alembic basses).
 
Pete, I don't think your post is a hijack at all since it relates to Alembic preamps and how we use them.
 
What you could gain by going from an Alembic pre to a micro amp to a light cab is an easier schlep for your back! I don't own a power amp (although I've thought hard about picking up one of those featherweight ones!), so I connect my F1-X into the effects return jack of my Aguilar Tone Hammer 500 amp head, which bypasses the Aguilar's preamp. My speaker of choice is the Aguilar SL112. 4 lb. head, 25 lb. cabinet. One cabinet is enough for small gigs, although I like the sound of two better. This setup works wonderfully! I don't feel like I'm lacking in the sound department by using this rig. I've done the Ampeg SVT into refrigerator cabinet thing and, although that made a joyous noise, my back doesn't miss it!
 
I would say go for that lightweight rig. I don't think you would be disappointed. Im sure others will chime in.

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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2015, 03:31:03 PM »
Yay! Rusty!! You Have finally tapped into.... THE FORCE!!!!! Now... FEEL THE FORCE!!!>>>LET IT FLOW THROUGH YOU!!!!
P.S. I ordered the 60' Cable and Neutrik for 54.00!!!!! Wish me luck!
Chalie

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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2015, 07:32:16 PM »
You guys are killing me.  I...will...resist...will...not...go...to Club Bass...to buy preamp...
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