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georgie_boy

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« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2009, 04:48:31 AM »
Alan and Rob
Thanks for your help here!!!
Could I just plug in the DS5 into the unit, and then plug it into the plug rack??
I'm really green as to the workings of these things, and don't want to die yet!

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« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2009, 09:15:25 AM »
Hi George, you can do that. I have one installed on my rig which is just plugged into my pre-amp. Mainly because, the ELCB  came moulded in-line with my kettle lead mains cable. Since the pre-amp is where my first contact with the rig is. I felt that was the best place for it.
 
I also have a plug in one, ( from B&Q),  that I plug my guitar amp into. I too have been the victim of an electric shock on-stage.
 
Fortunately it was in the USA, (110v), and happened when the singer put his arm on my shoulder whilst holding the mike. We only felt a bit of a tingle, but it did make me think.
 
I used to be an electrician many moons ago in my early 20's and fortunately have only had one electric shock in the UK that was 240v DC and believe me that hurts big time.
 
if you are playing anything above a tiny venue in the UK you are likely to find that the building has a 3 phase supply at 415v which gives you 3 different circuits at 240v ac.
 
This can often result in the PA being plugged into one circuit and the stage backline is plugged into another circuit.  If my electrical theory memory is correct, if the earth is lifted on either the stage or pa due to fault or a deliberate act, and you were holding your guitar and a microphone, you would complete the circuit and become crisp..
 
My electrical theory teacher used to say... Volts Jolts, Current Kills.
Basically, an elcb is designed to cut the circuit before enough current flows to cause injury. They also have a test button on it which it is recommended you check before use.
 
if you are still worried get a local sparky to check over your rig. You could also get your stuff PAT Tested which should find any problems to do with earthing etc. I got my band stuff done for ?30 which includes 20 items tested and a certificate.  
 
Jazzyvee
 
(Message edited by Jazzyvee on September 22, 2009)
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« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2009, 04:42:27 AM »
here you go george. Plug it into the wall and run your multiplug from it. 8 quid to save your life sometime.
 
Graeme

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« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2009, 06:50:09 AM »
In addition to jacko at al..you can get them from B&Q, Argos, Screwfix...a great addition to you gig bag.
You have every right to be scared..electricity kills and every precaustion is a good one.

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« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2009, 08:32:09 AM »
Thanks guys!!
I now know that there is nothing wrong with the DS5!
One of those units seems a great idea!
Just plug the DS5 into it, and, as I run directly into the PA......no worries. I could even use it at home!

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« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2009, 02:48:51 PM »
Further reading; the wiki on RCDs.

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« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2009, 02:58:38 AM »
I love Wiki..I donated last year when they needed funds to operate

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« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2009, 07:10:21 AM »
Well, I spoke to my buddy, and he has TWO of them in his garage.so he says I can have them, as he doesn't need them
Both for nothing!!.....even better when you're unemployed.
 
George

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« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2009, 08:23:23 AM »
So......If I plug my power amp, Eden Navigator and effects units into 1 5 block plug system......then attach the RCB unit before plugging in to the wall.....will this do the job, or do I need a separate unit for each??
 
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« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2009, 08:46:55 AM »
Yes, thats fine, just make sure the power rating of the stuff you plug into it doesn't go over the power rating of the RCD.
Jazzyvee
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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2009, 08:51:37 AM »
Thanks eveyone!!
 
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Jazzy.I assume you mean that it doesn't all go over 13 amps??

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« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2009, 02:26:48 AM »
Effectively yes that is correct, though often it's easier to find the wattage written on the back of kit than the current it draws.  Here is the info sheet from mine.  

 

 Jazzyvee  (Message edited by davehouck on September 25, 2009)
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« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2009, 02:42:41 AM »
George.
When we play, we plug RCDs into every wall socket we're using and run extensions from those (usually 4 in total). Our lead guitarist is a fully qualified electrical engineer and is more than happy with the way we set up.
 
Graeme
 
p.s. back in Falkirk saturday december 19th and Coatbridge November 20th,  and if you're interested in joining mike and me at Bass day on Nov 22nd let me know;-)

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« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2009, 04:54:28 AM »
jJust got my 2 brand new RCD units..still in the plastic!
Says the trip speed is less than 30ms.sounds good.
Slightly different looking to your one Jazzy.....but all in all.the same thing.
 
Thanks again everyone!!
 
George

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« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2009, 05:12:05 AM »
Thanks for the WIKI link David
Interesting reading!!
This unit is a MUST for all gigging musicians!!