Author Topic: Have you dropped your Alembic?  (Read 1153 times)

rami

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« Reply #30 on: February 15, 2004, 06:28:00 AM »
Hi guys,
 
I'll use a gig bag only if I have to walk any serious distance to a gig or practice. And when I do, I never take my super expensive Alembics.  Usually, one of my beloved Excels (I love them just as much). Otherwise, it's the case.  Why take chances?
 
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« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2004, 01:43:45 PM »
Hello everyone,I received my First Alembic bass this past friday.It's a 2000 Flamed Maple Epic 5-string.Unfortunately UPS must have set a 1000lb.Brick on top of it in shipping and destroyed the TKL wooden case.The top of the case was cracked.Both the ends of the case had turned to sawdust and were in pieces.The back was cracked as well.My heart sank when I opened the shipping box and seen sawdust and pieces of black leather falling from the opened container.To my amazement the Alembic bass had received no damage other than needing tuned. I inspected it thouroughly and played it for 2 hours.I am thanking the Alembic Gods for keeping and eye out for my First Alembic bass.I have already ordered an Anvil flight case for my bass now. No more chances of damage during travel.I would like to officially say Hello to all my fellow Alembic owners...Ken

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« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2004, 02:24:49 PM »
Brother Ken,
 
now that's what I call a remarkable entrance into the club. Gosh ...what a horror story!
Now ...lucky you.
Be careful however when telling this kinda thinsg because there are still a bunch of people waiting for their new baby who are now zera to hart-attack and surely willnot sleep before they hold their newborn in hands.
Anyway...a heartly welcome!
 
 
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« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2004, 04:26:47 PM »
Hello Ken,
 
welcome to the club. That's a nice Epic you got there.
I am glad to hear that your bass arrived in good condition in spite of the case demolition. I hope you put in a claim with UPS.
A word of advice to club members when shipping their basses & guitars through UPS (or having the instrument shipped to them).
A) always have the instrument insured for the full retail value of the instrument plus case.
B) If you are shipping cross country, ship ( or request) 3-day shipping. Guitars and basses ship by dimensional weight so 3 day select is normally not much more than regular ground; a 3 day select package goes through a lot less hands and rickety UPS trucks than a regular ground package thereby minimizing the chances of something happening to it because of poor handling, plus you 'll get it at least a day or 2 sooner.  And if you don't mind spending a bit more, Blue label is even better, cause those packages get even better tratment; it does not cost anything to ask how much more for 3-day or blue label, then you can make the decision if the extra money is worth it to you.  If your finances permit it, I think an extra 30-100$ is not much to insure the safety of a 3000$ + instrument.
C) If you do not have a flight case, make sure the intrument is well packed in a sturdy case,  put it in an instrument box ( if you do not know where to get one, your local music store should always have a bunch they are trying to get rid of) fill the box with packing peanuts or bubble wrap, paying attention to the corners & ends in particular.  Write or tape  fragile to the box but don't over do it; in 3 years as a shipping manager I was always amazed at how UPS seemed to specialize in destroying boxes with lots of fragile stickers on them.
D) Pray
 
Valentino

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« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2004, 05:53:36 PM »
Ken, that's a nice top on the Epic! I normally don't go for Epics but with some woods, the shape is better than with others. It also looks better in the playing or horizontal position than vertically! I like the Essence; you'd think the Epic would be similar enough for me to like. :-)
 
As for straps, I haven't followed the Alembic strap thread but I wonder if they could do foolproof, straplock-extract-proof ones out of kevlar and tyvek reinforcing....? I would think something like that would last a lifetime, just like the bass it holds up.
 
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« Reply #35 on: February 16, 2004, 08:10:58 PM »
Ken; that's some story!
 
Val; thanks for the tip on shipping!

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« Reply #36 on: February 17, 2004, 05:53:50 AM »
What a horror story.  I'm glad the bass is unharmed.  Be mindful that flight cases aren't going to outsmart a good shipping company.  I once had my prize P-bass (pre-alembic days), amp and speaker cabs sit for a week outside in the heat and rain at Kennedy airport in NYC after a European jaunt.  When the airline (I don't remember which one) finally delivered them to me, I literally poured water out of the cases (which were waterproof except the seals around the lids).  I tried to file a claim, but the outsides of the cases were dry and I was young and easily intimidated..  I still use the old Peavey head for small gigs sometimes.  It doesn't pop and crackle too much, considering what it's been through.  The P-bass is long gone though... :-)

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« Reply #37 on: April 29, 2004, 05:45:13 PM »
Call me a country bumpkin but it'll take a cold day in hell before I start using my custom instruments live, I much rather use instruments of which I know can stand a beating and are replaced without leaving a gaping hole in my wallet.
 
My 1989 Squier Stratocaster has been my main stage guitar for over 13 years now and every dent in her body has a story of a gig gone astray, because let's be honest, it doesn't matter how carefully you treat your instrument, regular gigging still beats the crap out of it, I have seen it all: barfights, my guitar popping loose from the strap and plummetting to the ground and intentional misuse, such as the Stevie Ray Vaughan approved rattling the headstock on the floor while holding onto the whammy bar. I do this because I know my guitar can take it, I pick it up and it'll be in tune.
 
I recently replaced my trusty Squier from the Reagan aera with a brand new Squier affinity strat and found out that it's even more durable than my old one. You'll never see me play Ibanez, they are too fragile for my liking and I HATE Floyd Rose Whammy's.
 
It's kinda ironic how the most basic instruments end up being the most durable. Kim Gordon of Sonic youth will probably never play Alembic, simply because her sixties Fender Precision Bass can survive being tossed around the stage without even going out of tune.
 
Krist Novoselic formerly of Nirvana is a devotee of the much loathed Gibson RD which had Alembic style active electronics and filters with the preamp built in, they were imfamous for weighing more than a ship's anchor. But as gigs with Nirvana showed they were also sturdier than an icebreaker's hull.
 
Novoselic once said that the RD bass was his main choice because he could throw it against a concrete wall and there'd be not even a scratch.
 
My point is, save your expensive toys for in the studio, use something that can take a beating and is easy to replace on stage, in the end it'll always work out in your advantage.
 

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« Reply #38 on: April 29, 2004, 07:18:56 PM »
I have had many problems with stability, truss rods and electronics on lesser instruments.  When playing for a $100k+ a year (which many of us either are doing or have done or will do) there is simply no substitute for having an Alembic in your hands.  If you've EVER been the one guy who had hum in a studio (at $200/hour) or tuning stability issues on stage in front of 5-thousand-plus people, then you know exactly why people spend a ton of money on a quality instrument and actually play it everywhere.  Playing an Alembic is the safest investment in your musical future you could possibly make, and one which can't be matched.  You could easily argue that I (not playing for a living anymore) shouldn't be playing mine live anymore and I would understand your logic.  I'd still play it because it frees my soul.  I also play some rather cheap-sh*t instruments because I can still make the house payments if my bass blows up on stage.  Young bucks who are actively pursueing careers in music are doing themselves a disservice if they aren't playing the best instruments they can lay their hands on.  I can respect where you're coming from, but I don't think it's valid across the board...  
John

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« Reply #39 on: April 30, 2004, 06:28:35 AM »
While Blazer makes some reasonable points, I agree with John; Blazer's advice may be valid for some but not necessarily for all or even most.  Not all musicians play music for which the score calls for throwing your instrument against a concrete wall.

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« Reply #40 on: April 30, 2004, 12:22:19 PM »
Although I can understand the logic of preforming with disposable instruments, I am inclined to agree with John and Dave.
 
The instruments that I'm fortunate to own are all of the highest quality.... First of all, Which one's the beater?  The '53 Les Paul?  The Paul Reed Smith?  The Travis Bean? The Skylark? Etc. etc.?
 
The reason I've spent my lifetime acquiring the finest guitars that I could afford, is for the love and satisfaction I derive from playing them.
 
Upon occasion, it's true that over the years some of them have received a few battle scars, those very few minor bumps and scratches have been far outweighed by the joy that playing them has given me.
 
Also, the people I'm preforming for deserve the best that I'm capable of presenting to them.
 
Not to mention the people I play with....Hell, I expect the best from them, why should I be any different?