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dannobasso

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Re: Collector or Player?
« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2004, 07:14:30 PM »
A stabbing that was fatal over a bad drug deal when I was playing in a go go bar in Paterson NJ in 82. The band just finished Judas Priest's version of Green Manalishi. At the end of the riff and final yeah! , a woman screamed and a man ran through the bar into the kitchen and was gone. I still had another 2 sets to play. No Alembic for another year but a Ripper L9S was by my side with a Scheduah fretless. Biker bars are also bastions of unusual behavior. Some Pagans were known to frequent some of the gigs in Clifton I played. We were often called upon to play a benefit for a fallen rider. Ah but the cat fights were wonders to behold! Something primal about 2 women thrashing eachother, clumps of hair flying and the promise of a torn bodice! Memories....
Danno

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Re: Collector or Player?
« Reply #31 on: October 14, 2004, 01:20:15 PM »
I?m usually the one pulling the thread way off course, but allow me to try my hand at restitching....
 
If I?m one of the few fortunate enough to own Alembics, I just gotta play ?em!  That?s why I bought ?em.  I owe it to myself, as well as the audience to be at the top of my game.  Alembics are the best tools I own, therefore I really have no choice but to use them.  Besides, I have a sneaking suspicion that?s what the folks at Alembic had in mind when they built them.

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Re: Collector or Player?
« Reply #32 on: October 14, 2004, 03:41:53 PM »
Green Manalishi???  At the risk of really seemimg old, wasn't that a Fleetwood Mac song back in the day of Peter Green on guitar?
   Kenn R.

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Re: Collector or Player?
« Reply #33 on: October 14, 2004, 04:00:48 PM »
Does it go a little something like this?
 
Now, when the day goes to sleep and the full moon looks
The night is so black that the darkness cooks
Don't you come creepin' around  
makin' me do things I don't want to
 
Can't believe that you need my love so bad
Come sneakin' around tryin' to drive me mad
Bustin' in on my dreams  
making me see things I don't wanna see
 
'Cause you're da Green Manalishi with the two prong crown
All my tryin' is up
all your bringin' is down
Just taking my love then slippin' away  
Leavin' me here just tryin' to keep from following you
 
I'm pretty sure that Peter Green wrote it.  
 
You don't seem old to me Kenn!

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Re: Collector or Player?
« Reply #34 on: October 14, 2004, 05:55:43 PM »
Sounds like the one to me. I have not heard it in years. I had a bootleg version on my old reel to reel, it was a very different band back then.
Thanks for the lyrical flashback.
Kenn R.

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Re: Collector or Player?
« Reply #35 on: October 14, 2004, 06:08:06 PM »
OK, now to throw a wrench into the machine:
 
I played mostly Fenders for 20 years - nothing happens.  Soundmen don't say a thing except turn down that Trace Elliot.
 
I buy two Alembics in 24 months - the more expensive one gets its peghead guillotined off after only 4 gigs.  However, at least one soundman has said The Alembic blows out the Fender (I bring one of each to every gig) - play the Alembic, but will you PLEASE turn down that $%#@! Trace Elliot???  Some things never change.
 
Am I afraid to bring my Alembics out in public again after that?  Well, frankly, yes I am.  I seriously doubt I will use my Spyder with my Who tribute band again in very small stage situations.  My medium-scale Exploiter, however, might make it out if I stand Stu Sutcliffe-style (i.e. back to the audience and peghead AWAY from the singer).  
 
All comedy aside - I bought my Alembics to PLAY them.  They're instruments, not furniture.  I PLAY BETTER using them.  You bought your Alembic and paid a pretty penny for it.  You love it, you know it sounds great, you wanna show it off.  Use it.  Ignore soundmen who are uninterested in broadening their horizons.  Drive your Maserati and be proud.
 
But beware of microphone-swinging lead singers.
 
Mike Bisch

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« Reply #36 on: October 15, 2004, 01:18:44 AM »
I had Alembic make me a doubleneck for one reason: So I have to carry only one bass to gigs and to have all the musical freedom I'd ever need. So yes, my Alembic is my favorite work horse, not a museum piece. I would be a fool if I paid all the money and then not play it.

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Re: Collector or Player?
« Reply #37 on: October 15, 2004, 06:40:50 AM »
Hartmut,
I had forgotten what a beautiful instrument you own.  Wow.  And I'm with you.  I sold something like a dozen nice basses to buy my Series I, and I bought it because I really, really, really wanted to play it!
John

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Re: Collector or Player?
« Reply #38 on: October 15, 2004, 12:53:22 PM »
I played a gig recently where the sound man took a look at my Rogue 5 and my rig and said he wasn't going to put me through the PA as he wanted to save it for vocals, guitar and kick. He said, Your set up and bass is going to come through just fine. Turn it up a hair, that's all. He was right. He is also actually a very good engineer, well respected in the area and has worked with some name people and is himself a  former bass player.
 
Never had a fatality at a gig although I thought one should have died after taking a glass beer pitcher full in the face, which of course sparked a small scale riot. I just stood on stage with my Persuader, waited it out and figured it would make a very effective weapon had it come down to it before the police cleared things up.
 
John Paul

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« Reply #39 on: October 15, 2004, 11:57:57 PM »
I'll never forget this gig at a Navy base, in which a sailor used a pitcher of beer from a Marine table to douse his lady friend with whom he had been arguing. The Marines jumped to their feet, and then this ripple affect happened, and they jumped on the sailor, and then the rest of the room rushed in and jumped on them. Just like a Looney Tunes cartoon, there was this big pile of humans on the floor and all you could see was this pile of flailing arms and legs! Then the Exit doors were flung open, and in rushed the Shore Patrol! What a hysterical scene, it was great and I'll never forget it! And what a study in the effects of violence upon the viewer. The band had been playing this slow spacey bluesy tune when the fracas started, and by the time we got it under control and ended it, we were doing near light speed! The tune was Bridge Of Sighs by Robin Trower, it actually makes for good Speed Metal, I know, I've lived though it! ;-)

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Re: Collector or Player?
« Reply #40 on: October 16, 2004, 12:02:44 AM »
I'll never forget this gig at a Navy base, in which a sailor used a pitcher of beer from a Marine table to douse his lady friend with whom he had been arguing. The Marines jumped to their feet, and then this ripple affect happened, and they jumped on the sailor, and then the rest of the room rushed in and jumped on them. Just like a Looney Tunes cartoon, there was this big pile of humans on the floor and all you could see was this pile of flailing arms and legs! Then the Exit doors were flung open, and in rushed the Shore Patrol! What a hysterical scene, it was great and I'll never forget it! And what a study in the effects of violence upon the viewer. The band had been playing this slow spacey bluesy tune when the fracas started, and by the time we got it under control and ended it, we were doing near light speed! The tune was Bridge Of Sighs by Robin Trower, it actually makes for good Speed Metal, I know, I've lived though it! ;-)

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Re: Collector or Player?
« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2004, 12:05:50 AM »
Whoops, double post! Mea culpa!

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Re: Collector or Player?
« Reply #42 on: October 16, 2004, 01:28:15 AM »
Hi Reid,
 
maybe I am not a serious musician but I never heard of those fighting things thias side of the pond. Well ...not the places/bars where I've played. OTOH we never play that late at night (or better: early morning) our gigs are mostlly between 22:00 and 01:00.
 
Now I am think off: the only head that have been wacked involving Bonnie ws the head of our singer/guitarplayer Luc in Blue Stuff ...well ..huh ...wacked ...it was a really bad bump into and Luc was really hurt. Bonnie ...cool as ever.
 
Paul the bad one
 
 
BTW Reid ...I reqlly liked your personal quote on your profile.

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Re: Collector or Player?
« Reply #43 on: October 16, 2004, 03:04:58 AM »
Bridge of Sighs is a great tune - was your guitarist able to pull off the Troweresque guitar tone?

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Re: Collector or Player?
« Reply #44 on: October 16, 2004, 06:06:54 AM »
I've always liked Trower's stuff, although I don't have any of his recordings.  For a while now I've been thinking it would be interesting to try an instrumental jam version of Day Of The Eagle.  I like the way he uses the unison line in both the fast and slow sections and as the transition between the two.  Or at least that's how I remember it; I haven't actually heard the song in quite a while.  I guess I need to get a copy of that song.