Author Topic: Funny Story/Alembic Ignorance  (Read 772 times)

rockbassist

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« on: November 13, 2005, 07:37:52 PM »
I was recently asked to audition for a cover/original rock band that is looking for a bassist. After listening to their demos I decided to give it a shot. I am currently playing with a country artist who is getting airplay on over 300 radio stations but I decided to pursue this gig while we are not touring so that I can keep my chops up. Anyway, I arrived at the studio and the guitarist/lead singer looks at my Epic and says Great looking bass but I can't believe that someone who has played all over the country is using something made in Mexico. I explained to him what Alembic was and I could see that he was skeptical. Especially since his main guitar was a $200 LTD from Musician's Friend. Don't get me wrong, I have heard great instruments sound like crap in the hands of bad musicians and poor instruments sound great in the hands of great musicians. I asked if there was a computer with internet access available so I could show him the Alembic website. There was, and after I showed him what Alembic really is I thought that he was going to have to change his underwear. We did about 15 songs, many of which I hadn't played in close to 20 years. Both guitarists were very good. I was surprised at how well they played.  Not only did I get the gig, they asked me if I wanted the drummer to stay or should they find someone else. I told them that the drummer was the weakest link in  the band and they immediately started auditioning drummers. In fact they, called me back that night to play with a different drummer. It's amazing how little is know about Alembic. Despite the fact that they have been around for over 30 years, many skilled musicians are ignorant when it comes to the Alembic name. They loved the sound of my Alembic.  
About the country artist that I mentioned earlier. His name is Bo Billy. He is currently getting airplay on over 300 radio stations in the US, Canada and Europe. His website is www.bobilly.com. He also has a cd available for purchase on the site. Even if you do not like country music, it is still worth checking him out. I didn't like country music much but a good friend of mine is managing Bo and he asked me to listen to the cd. That was several months ago and I have been asked to join his touring band. It's funny, These opportunities started appear just about the same time that I started using Alembic.

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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2005, 03:33:36 AM »
How in the world did he come to the conclusion that your bass was from Mexico? I wonder what made that connnection in his head?
Congratulations on the gig.
 
Sam

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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2005, 04:45:09 AM »
I never would have had that gig.  After a statement like that, I would have responded with something like Were you born presumptuious & ignorant or did you have to work at it....?.  Diplomat that I am...
 
Congrats on both gigs!

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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2005, 05:09:01 AM »
I guess most things today come from Mexico!  Or did your bass wear a sombrero and a poncho????
 
Nice job on the gigs!!

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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2005, 05:56:16 AM »
Does he even know where his LTD comes from? Wherever it is (somewhere in the far east, I presume), it ain't the good ole' US of A, LOL!

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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2005, 08:38:09 PM »
I'm not sure why he thought my bass was made in Mexico. I just figured that he was not well informed. I'm sure his LTD was made in Korea. He also has a Jackson. My main gig is with a country artist that is getting airplay on over 300 radio stations. We are taking some time off before doing a national tour and I just wanted to play some rock and roll locally for a while and keep my chops up. Otherwise I wouldn't be doing the gig at all. I believe that playing with as many musicians as possible can only make you better. Besides, you never know when the next opportunity will present itself.

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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2005, 11:47:02 AM »
Sounds like you're doing just fine...I imagine there's quite a few of us that'd kill to be in your shoes.
 
I suppose it's unfair to knock foreign-made stuff, as not a lot is made here anymore. I try my best to be patriotic and buy only American goods were possible, but that is getting harder to do so all the time. Hell, how many people know how many foreign parts are on a new Harley? The suspension, brakes, wheels, some electricals, etc. are all Japanese-sourced. My Hog even has Weber-Marelli injection on it! There's nothing wrong in buying foreign stuff per se, I just try to support American industry and our economy wherever I can.  
 
OK, I'm off the soapbox now, LOL!

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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2005, 12:34:17 PM »
I have always been pretty proud of the fact that despite the U.S.A.'s reputation for low production quality in most businesses, guitars are still one thing where being made in the U.S.A. is an instantly recognisable mark of quality.  That is not to say that there are not excellent foreign guitars (and crappy American ones for that matter).  I think you would find that anywhere you went in the world, most people world would praise american guitars as the best.
 
(Now of course my guitar was built by a Brit, but he lives in washington at least ;)

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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2005, 03:25:23 PM »
I used to agree with that, but my two Yamaha TRB bass guitars sound fantastic (made in Japan), and I just played a Gretsch guitar made in China that sounded and felt as good as almost anything I have seen anywhere.  
 
But I still like the vintage stuff the best for some reaon!

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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2005, 05:34:55 AM »
Understood...My '88-vintage Charvel/Jacksons were made over there and they haven't had quality issue one in 17yrs. They were just fixed-model non-custom Jacksons assembled overseas. From what I remember, the custom order USA-made Jacksons of the same time suffered from huge quality problems when every Hair Metal band in the world inspired legions to buy Jackson.
 
The Gretschs are also very nice (are ANY of them made here?), as are Eastman's Chinese-made archtop Jazz-boxes.
 
Regardless, I'm stubborn in my old age. Given a choice, as long as the quality is there, I'll pay a premium to buy American-made goods wherever possible.

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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2005, 07:50:04 AM »
Kevin; this doesn't really answer your question, but is all I could find at the moment; from the Gretsch site:
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In 1989, with the company again in Gretsch family hands, guitar production restarted on a large scale. Yet another Fred Gretsch had managed to purchase the remnants of the company ? little more than the name, really ? and set up shop outside of Savannah, Ga. The guitars, based on classic Gretsch models, would be made in Japan with a mixture of American and European parts.  
 
A custom line of American-made guitars was also offered in 1998 and 1999, but prices were astronomical and few sold.
 
At the beginning of 2003 Gretsch began yet another new era as Fender Musical Instruments Corporation secured an agreement that basically gave them all control over the manufacturing and distribution of Gretsch.

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« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2005, 03:13:53 PM »
'did your bass wear a sombrero and a poncho????'

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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2006, 12:57:35 PM »
I was once asked by a Music teacher/bass player/bandleader type person what bass I was playing. He plays in Orchestras and is the band leader; teaches kids in his school all instruments including elec. bass (from various books, some jaco transcriptions etc) ......
 
I said: Alembic.
 
He said Olympic? Try a Fender when you get the money.

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« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2006, 05:40:40 AM »
My guitar instructor and repair guy is not an Alembic fan either. He doesn't like all the lams, the poly finish and the proprietary active electronics utilizing filters. The less glue the better (it's a sound insulator, he says), lacquer is king, and he's either a passive p/u and/or a Bartolini fan.  
 
Having said that, though, he did admit that at least I was getting craftmanship (a high level of workmanship) for my dosh, LOL!  
 
While even I realize that (warping and strength issues aside) a single solid piece of wood SHOULD be  better sounding that a bunch of pieces of glued together wood (all things being equal), Alembic is without peer, IMHO. Craftmanship, playability, aesthetics, quality, feel, sound, etc. (I could go on)...Only Alembic has 'em all in spades.
 
Why am I telling you guys this? It's like preaching to the choir! OK, nevermind....forget I even said anything, LOL!
 
Cheers,
 
Kevin

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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2006, 09:12:48 AM »
QUOTE:
 
I said: Alembic.  
 
He said Olympic? Try a Fender when you get the money.
 
That is just TOO funny!!! Freakin' hilarious!!!
 
A few years ago, a friend who was a drummer and also my regular... let's say, pre-emptive stress relief facilitator introduced me to a bass player friend of his who he asserted was really awesome. So we met, and the guy began showing me some stuff, and he WAS pretty good. However, he immediately assumed a position of being a bass badass who was better than me and who was kicking down stuff to little ol' me. This is of course, quite silly. He had no idea where I was at musically, and the fact of the matter was that I had at least comparable skills; in fact, I was apparently more advanced than he in at least certain aspects of musicality. But, not being an ego freak as he appeared to be, I humbly watched/listened as he demonstrated some stuff and lectured me for a while. Finally, while there was a brief pause in his pontificating, my drummer friend squeezed in Mark is actually pretty good too, you should see his bass, it's the most amazing bass I've ever seen. Mark, go get your bass so he can see it. (We lived in the same apartment complex).
 
He immediately said he didn't have the time to wait, and I had no interest in persuading him, but my friend wanted him to see it, and told him it would only take a minute. Begrudgingly, he asked what kind of bass it was, and I told him it was a custom 8-string Alembic. He knew what Alembics were, so at this point, he became curious, but asked, with an air of skepticism, why I'd have an octave bass for a main bass; and I replied that it wasn't an octave bass, but had 8 strings tuned in 4ths. He responded that Alembic had never made such an instrument. This was pretty silly, as it (1) implied Alembic-omniscience, and (2) assuming I (and our friend) wasn't lying, the fact that it did exist and I owned it and had it 50 feet away sort of meant that it DID exist.
 
So I ran up and got it, whipped it out, and started playing some of my very best stuff at blazing speed just to blatently send the message YOU'RE not the only one out there who can play, bub! After ripping through an original counterpoint piece and a Paganni arrangement/transcription, it was funny how he instantly become befuddled and silent, totally snuffed.
 
After a brief pause, he regained his previous posture and said, with the slightest air of condescension and vindicated skepticism, I thought you said it was an 8-string.
 
So I then paused for a moment, made eye contact and raised both my eyebrows, and then pointed to the headstock and tuning pegs, and counted 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8! He stammered a few semi-gurgling sounds, and then, clearly embarrassed and in denial, again asserted he had to go, and ran off!
 
It was pretty funny, the whole air of superiority he had had, contrasting with my combination of humbleness coupled with reality being on my side. He basically knocked the wind out of his own sails (all on his own) and it was really funny. As he was walking away, I said I enjoyed meeting him and seeing his techniques (which was completely true), and then he tried to save face by making some reference to the Series 1 basses with the CVQs, and I told him that it was actually the series II basses that had the CVQs. He stopped (despite being in a hurry) and told me that he was an expert on basses and on Alembics and again said that the CVQs were on the Series 1 basses, and I told him that nonetheless he was wrong, I knew it for a fact, and that I'd be willing to bet my bass against his. After a few seconds of facing down, he relented, and then asserted something to the effect of whoops, that's what I meant to say all along. LOL
 
Anyway, some time after that, my drummer friend intimated to me that I had intimidated and humiliated him. Hah! I replied that I just did my thing as he had, and that his attitude and demeanor was the source of his humiliation, not anything I did or said. And my friend said I think you're right. He's just not used to anything like that.
 
I said, better late than never!