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« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2009, 01:34:46 PM »
For a little while.  I lost interest in that pretty quick, though.  At least on any bass that I currently own.  I may build a Warmoth project with ONLY the Roland pup some day.

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« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2009, 03:55:46 AM »
Have you checked out those PJ bass amps on the web, hi fi sound from tiny 5 speakers and very portable too.

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« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2009, 01:30:29 PM »
I first heard Phil Jones gear at NAMM a few years ago. A biggin with a couple of dozen 5 drivers. Very cool, very precise and crisp, with no wanting in the bottom end, and plenty loud. (they were issued a noise citation by the NAMM police, no kidding!)  Last month Sam Ash was having a sale on the Suitcase and the Flightcase. I took the opportunity to try them out. Wonderful tone but not very practical for anything louder than an acoustic trio or your bedroom.

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« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2009, 05:12:25 PM »
Has anyone tried the A.E.R.amp with a single 10 ?

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« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2009, 04:25:31 AM »
jbybj - I guess if you are playing heavy rock and you need more power and you want your stage sound out in the audience(especially if you are not put thru' the PA)
The band I am in puts all the gear thru' the PA so I use my little Roland Bass CUbe with extension speaker as my own monitor

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« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2009, 04:45:12 AM »
Huge trouble:
 

(also huge sound)
 
Btw: This is a photoshop visualitation of my current rig.
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« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2009, 05:36:30 AM »
Yiiikes!!!!
But I love it!!
Crrrrrushing...probably universe shaking lows coupled with stratospheric splitting highs!!!!
You must have roadies though, if not, you've got some great friends in that they help you cart that equipment, which in my opinion is what it is all about! Most excellent!!!!
 
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« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2009, 06:03:12 AM »
Here is my current rig.

 
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« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2009, 07:11:35 AM »
Olie:
 
Will you be schlepping that rig to Chicago?  Do you have a flight case for it?
 
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« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2009, 08:07:14 AM »
Not sure Bill, my backs been bothering me.  
 
I was getting some complaints, mostly from the backup singers, about being too loud on stage running thru a Eden Metro 2x10 combo. This Shure in-ear system I used when I used to sing a lot so I tried it for my bass. Sounds great!
 
We have an in ear systems running off the monitor board but I use my own system, a Shure PSM-400(It came with SCL-3 but I use the SCL-5 earphones). It has 2 inputs with seperate level contols to mix them. I set the transmitter on top of the Eden and daisy off the drummers monitor into the transmitter and pre-amp out of the Eden into the transmitter. This way I can turn my bass up without changing the house mix.  
 
Ironicaly last Sunday one of the backup singers turned to me during rehearsal and said my bass was too loud and ask me to turn down. The Eden has a switch that allows you to turn the speakers off, which they were. The only on stage bass was coming from the drummers monitor and he is behind an isolation wall. DOH!!
 
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« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2009, 06:24:30 PM »
Low Frequencies always can mess everything when enters in Stationary behaviour.  
 
All closed spaces can cause Stationary Waves. If in good sounding ambients this frequencies are best distributed and doesn't bothers you, in problematical rooms just some frequencies build up (annoingly twisting room's frequencies response curve towards mud low-mids).
 
As low frequencies have bigger wavelenght, they tends to be more problematic (since they also build up a complete Harmonic Series, wich means that it causes ressonances in partials of the main problematic frequency). Don't forget that lows are omnidirectional and equaly spread all over the place. While lows shows up behind PA as strong as they roar in front of Speakers, highs - that moves forward (away from you) - sounds weak at the stage. I believe that this is what was bothering her... Specially if drummer's monitor was pumping the bass ;D
 
A room's stationary wave occurs when the distance between its parallel walls is half of a size of its wavelenght. In fact, these distances do defines wich frequencies will build up. So it is utterly important that distances between walls in a room never relate. The worst case would be a cubic (or spherical) room, when the reinforced frequency will be the same on all axis. But it is bad when a dimension is half or double the other either.
 
When this happens, not only omnidirectional lows are overwhelming, but even some specific notes can be tottaly up front (even if you play them short and softly). Stages like that are totaly exasperating to play on and this bomb notes can be very distractive (and distructive) to your performance.
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« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2009, 06:27:12 PM »
Bloody singers...always complaining, a list of what they whine about
The bass is too loud
The guitar is too high pitched
The drums are shaking my voice
I cannot see the lyrics because the lights are shining on my face
My hair is not right
My shirt has a coffee stain on it so I cannot do the gig.
and on and on and on
They maybe the drivers but the band is the engine.

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« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2009, 06:48:11 PM »
Sorry, double post...
 
(Message edited by Mario Farufyno on May 22, 2009)
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« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2009, 06:48:37 PM »
I loved when I tried a in-ear monitor, specially because I also back sing in my Band. It is so pleasent that in-your-face sound, everything cristal clear and very little room reverberation to distract you. But I missed that low shaking my belly...
 
Don't you feel that too, Olie?
 
It seems to me that something is lacking, not a proper sound, but that phisical presence only deep lows can cause. When your entire body moves and became an ear, when air rumble and ground shakes. Not in the bad way stationary waves does, but when Bass Cabinet punches you in the chest.
 
This feeling made me ask for more Bass than I'd really needed and I feel that I used my monitoring too loud that night. I know this is an newbie's issue and I could correct that misuse with more experience, but I really felt my Bass too light tottaly aparted from its Cabinet.
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« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2009, 06:58:19 PM »
Olie and Terry; in my last band I decided to seriously address the singers' complaints.  Got rid of the singers and sure enough, no more problems with singers' complaints.