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mike1762

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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2011, 09:47:53 AM »
Maybe we could outfit X-boy with a kill switch
 
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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2011, 10:10:11 AM »
The guy is a complete knob head...the kind of guitarist I bloody hate to the core..full of his own shit..competely narcisistic..
I watched 5 minutes then off...

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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2011, 10:36:37 AM »
After reading the comments here, I decided to watch the video.  I thought the guitars sounded great.  And he can play.  I didn't notice if he said anything disparaging about the guitars.  He looked like he was having fun playing the guitars.
 
I haven't read the comments to the video on the youtube page, but I notice that there are well over 23,000 views.
 
So in a way this is kind of an example of a great player walking into a music store, picking up an Alembic, and playing for a while, having fun, and saying cool guitar!, and then telling 23,000 of his fans about this cool guitar that most of them had never heard of before.  At the very least, he introduced some guitar players to Alembic.  Maybe a few them run an Ebay search, maybe a few run a Google search, maybe a few surf into the Alembic.com site, and maybe a few end up here at our club.
 
So yes, he didn't bother to learn anything about the guitars before he picked them up; but knowing nothing about the controls, I think he probably introduced at least some of his audience to some really nice guitars.
 
I will add this caveat before clicking the post button; I don't play guitar.  So I think the observations of the guitar players here in our club are probably more valuable than my own.  I've also never watched any of the other videos in the series, so I don't know how this video compares with the others.  He certainly didn't show off everything that Alembic guitars can do, but it did seem to me that he essentially picked up a really impressive looking guitar, said some really nice things about the way it looked, the wood, the adjustable nut, the bridge, and then plugged it in and played some really nice stuff on it, showing off the differences in tone that could be had from the switches, showing combinations of pickups, and having fun with it.  It seems to me that there are at least a few more guitar players in the world who have now been introduced to Alembic.
 
I do hope that the belt buckle didn't meet with the back of the guitars.

terryc

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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2011, 12:40:01 PM »
Dave as usual your neutrality is wisdom indeed and maybe we should not be so judgemental and yes he has introduced the general public to Alembic so that is good..mind you I cannot see some thrash metal player hammering the hell out of the frets..can you??
(I still think it was crap though LOL)

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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2011, 01:27:05 PM »
Terry; Black Sabbath on a Tribute is indeed a bit of a visual clash (though his cover of Sweet Leaf brought back memories of my band covering that tune when it first came out).  I hadn't heard of Phil X before this thread, but in the Alembic demo he runs through a lot of stuff and you can tell the guy can play; so I looked around.  Here's a nice example of him covering an old standard.

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« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2011, 02:28:20 PM »
Wow. Not sure what to think. As we all know different guitar/bass combos have sounds unique to our own signiture. I true artist may be able to adapt a Gerry style to a different genra and make it work. As it is is I think PhilX has a job to do and really didn't take the time to understand the way an Alembics works. They are a different animal. I am still loving getting used to the sounds that can be made. Hope this makes some sense.

terryc

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« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2011, 01:25:59 AM »
Oh Dave..'Sweetleaf' from 'Masters of Reality', a blast fom my teenage years, I have it on vinyl in the orginal LP 'box', instead of a sleeve it was a 12 x 12 box with a flap.
That is one heavy riff that sums Black Sabbath at their best.

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« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2011, 05:30:05 AM »
Dave's right.  I'll go sit in the corner until I can learn to play nice.

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« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2011, 10:25:57 AM »
Dave IS right. To some extent any publicity is good publicity; and Mr. X's review was not particularly negative about the Alembic guitar. On the other hand, and in my own defense as well, calling someone a clown is not necessarily a put-down, for sure. I put forth the great Wavy Gravy as an example. Clowns are entertaining, and so is Mr. X.

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« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2011, 11:44:59 AM »
I can just imagine Mr. X selling cars:
 
Here we have a cool looking car.  They call it a 'Porsche Carrera 911'.  Must be a police car!  Calling 9-1-1 dude!  Now let's see the engine in this baby.  First let's lift the hood - WHOA DUDE, someone stole the engine right outta here!
 
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« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2011, 03:20:59 PM »
Ha ha ha ha ha!
 
Bill, you're great!
Not just a bass, this is an Alembic!

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« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2011, 09:43:02 PM »
I thought that dude was great.  He didn't know the electronics, but was clearly making it up as he went along.
 
I guess I just appreciate someone with the cojones to unapologetically wing it.  Oh, and it was pretty clear that he's a pretty talented musician.

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« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2012, 12:05:37 PM »
I don't know.  The guy can play, but to me, he's just so .... irritating.
 
I will say this: If I were, for example, going to post a video on how to make a hollandaise sauce on YouTube, I would take the time to learn everything about making it as well as I could before posting.  I wouldn't make erroneous statements about it, no matter how entertaining it might be.  Yeah, this guy has played with a bunch of folks, is talented, etc. but speaking only for myself, I'll take less entertainment and more facts, in this particular instance, anyway.
 
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« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2012, 11:35:22 AM »
Alan sums it up best.  They guy certainly meant no harm (and can play rings around me) but somebody could have spent 5 minutes to look up Alembic Tribute on a Google search and he would have at least understood some part of the electronics.  Then again the concept of a filter for each pickup may have blown his mind.  
 
Love the 'Kill Switch' idea and the 'hidden extra coil' idea.  
 
Of course our wonderful Moderator Dave puts it all in proper perspective.  But since this looks to be part of a professional series, I would hope for better preparation.
 
 
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« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2012, 06:06:44 PM »
The bottom line is whether or not this helped the store sell Alembic guitars.  My suspicion is that it did not.
 
Bill, tgo