I know that searchers of the sound are the laughing stock of the bass-community, but what the heck; we?re a group of religious fanatics so why should we differ? I really enjoyed reading the Phil tone-thread and would like to share my memorable moment with you; it came when I plugged my 4str Epic (stringed with Pyramid Gold Flats) into a ?70s Guild Thunderbass amp powering a modrn Epifani 4x10ULcab. The sound mimicked almost to perfection the Phil-sound around autumn 1971 (as exemplified on the fantastic Dicks Picks 35). I don?t know why, I?m just happy with it. From a sound-psychology-point-of-view it shouldn?t be possible (Phil played a totally different LOUD volumes). I guess its a tiny copy of tube amp driving lots of nice speakers. And the SF2 will probably help to pinpoint the weirder tones on DP35...but for now I?m satisfied. I did the same with my Guild Starfire (with Dark Star pickups) but it didn?t work as well...it was the Alembic that did it!