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bumhucker

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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2006, 08:53:52 AM »
i finally got it!  i had to open it with safari and then update the security settings etc..  looks cool-sounds good--the tracks are great!

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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2006, 09:00:23 AM »
I am glad, thanks a lot.
 
Would you like me to get a couple of your track listed, so see what it looks like?
It's a very simple process, all I need is the URLs, that's it!
The songs stay on your website. You can have a photo for each track as well, it needs to be 130x130 pixels, preferably located in the same folder as your MP3s (just for convenience + to keep things tidy).

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« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2006, 09:31:01 AM »
Forgot to mention that a photo/picture is NOT necessary, but it's an added bonus, and an opportunity to show what Alembic you used in the track (yes, it has to be a track where you play an Alembic, otherwise it would defeat the object), and you could also have a second track with the picture of your band, for instance.  
 
- Although, as we are just testing/demonstrating it, you can on this occasion have any track you like...
 
Until we hear from the Bosses, Mica and Dave. Then I can further explain the ins/outs, and how exactly and easily the player works, etc...

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« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2006, 10:14:23 AM »
LG and Harry ..both streams played fine, LG's I think media player opened it and Harry's opened with real player. Both sounded clean. I would think as long as the file sizes for archiving don't become a problem i.e. every member uploading every song in their personal catalog, I love the idea of expressing the sound aspect. We can look and read in this forum to our hearts content. Learn alot and share alot. Still it's not quite the same as hearing it.  
Any suggestions on software to convert analog media to digital(computer). I have tons of stuff on tape I'd love to digitize.
Thanks....NLP

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« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2006, 10:20:35 AM »
NLP, good to hear that!  
 
Thanks for supporting + encouraging this project.
 
Regarding your A/D conversion, I can help;
First question, are you PC or MAC?

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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2006, 11:17:19 AM »
LG...That would be PC running XP.
And I think the Idea is Great!
Thanks for the help.
NLP

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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2006, 01:30:28 PM »
NLP, the first step is to get a Soundcard, it doesn't have to be expensive though.  
 
It is really NOT worth using the built in Audio interface on your computer, trust me.
 
What sort of media do you want to transfer?
Tape only, tape + vinyl, or reel to reel...
 
I have proposed to have a section dedicated to this on the forum, but I don't have the power to do so, so for now, we can always use the thread...

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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2006, 02:21:29 PM »
Actually all the above. alot of reel to reel, some vinyl and cassete tape.
Can the sound card be an external device or is there an advantage to an internal card. The reason being the PC is HP Pavilion 7320n slimline. Not a whole lot of room in there.
NLP

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« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2006, 02:44:09 PM »
OK, for what you want/need, we should go for an external box, there are several reasons; internal/PCI card that have A/D-D/A converters on the card itself are lower quality, in many ways, noise/interferences being the number one problem. The only exception is the high end Lynx cards, but these are expensive and not needed for your application, although RME is good to, we want an external box, there are some in various flavor, PCI + break out box (converters + connectors on box), USB (don't go for that, poor performance) and Firewire (a great option, converters + connectors on the box, most popular these days).  
 
Sometimes, computers like HP, have problems with the chipset and you can have compatibility issues, for Firewire, the safest chipset is Texas Instruments, so if you were having problem with a fire wire interface, you could always add a Firewire PCI card, they cost around $10/20, this would be the extreme scenario.
 
Now regarding what box, well, there are many options, and it depends on your budget. If you need phono input, you need an interface with phono inputs, there are few around, otherwise, if you have an amp or a mixer with the phono input, you could use that to go straight to your soundcard (line level).
 
Do you want a self contained/all in one option,
or do you prefer to hook up a preamp with phono inputs for the  
vinyl? At this stage, we concentrate on an external box.
 
(Message edited by LG71 on November 07, 2006)

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« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2006, 03:47:18 PM »
I can use a mixer capable of phono and tape. An old SAE mkIX which also has EQ. I have a few others. I think at this stage I'll stick to components.
NLP

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« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2006, 09:17:43 AM »
Anyone is invited to read this post, it should help you to understand the basics and the first steps, as we don't have a dedicated area, although I did suggest it,  
I am trying to help and advice members so they can get started, recording they own music on they computers at a reasonably low cost.
 
OK, first and briefly, the 3 important things that you need to know about soundcards, in NO specific order:
 
1) sound quality (A/D-D/A converters... how good it sounds when you listen through it, and how good it sounds when you record through it), the determining factor here is usually' the cost.
2) stability (does it crash, is it stable and compatible... ), this, doesn't always relate to the price.
3) versatility (ins/outs connections, type of connections... ), again, this, doesn't always relate to the price.
 
You could have for example, a great sounding box, expensive, but not stable (crashes etc...), or you could have loads of ins/outs but poor sound quality, and so on...
 
You haven't mention the budget, so let's assume that all you need is something that serves its purpose.
 
I am going to recommend the card that I use, it's cheap, stable on my system (OSX) and versatile (it is PC compatible as well), sound quality is brilliant for the money.
 
Here it is: http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/FireWireSolo-main.html
You can plug your mixer/amp output at the back of the card, you can plug headphones as well, it is self powered (Firewire), there is a volume knob that control the headphones as well as the main outputs (which is balanced BTW, a nice feature if you use nearfield monitors that have balanced inputs), so the output can go directly to some powered monitors/speakers, or to one of the stereo inputs on you Hi-Fi amp. It is compatible with Pro-Tools LE as well, and it's probably the BEST for the money, and  it will stand up pretty well against other boxes at twice the price.    
 
Then you also have an XLR Mic input with +48V/Phantom power, so you can plug and power those nice condenser mic, as well as using standard dynamic mics...
 
You also get a Bass/Guitar input, so you plug an record you instrument directly into your computer, as well as being able to listen to it through whatever is connected on the output, Hi/Fi amp, monitors....
 
This soundcard is a Firewire type and buss powered (NO PSU needed, although some laptops need a PSU, so it comes with one PSU anyway), it also has S/PIDIF (Digital) in/out, that's a VERY GOOD feature and a good way to get a killer setup, here is how:
 
You can invest in a nice dedicated channel strip/preamp, that has a Digital out option for example, and you can connect it directly to you cheap sound card, while using the better converters form the Channel strip (bass/guitar, mic input)... then you record through it, you get a superior/much better sounding signal.  
 
Saying that, you can always plug a channel strip/preamp that doesn't have a Digital out, it will work fine, but it's just good to know that the option is there.
 
Same can be done on the way out, for instance, you could get a Focusrite Twin track with the Digital option (in + out) and loop it through the sound card,
so you monitor + record through the Focusrite, by using better converters, there are other options out there of course, but the important thing is to have some
Digital In/Out on the soundcard at least. But for now, let's not get carried away or into greater details, it's just good to know that you can get a superior sounding
system by knowing what to do... cutting corners in a good way.
 
Once you get the soundcard, come the software...  
 
In short, most people on the forum, or elsewhere, can turn their computer into a project recording studio, and record, edit, mix, master and so on...
The crucial bits are; 1 x computer (obviously), 1 x soundcard, 1 x software, and a way of listening, headphones or amp/monitors...    
 
And one last important point, if you hook up a pair of active/powered monitors on your sound card, you can through away your Hi/Fi! Ia m not joking, you can play all your CDs on your computer, you can convert all your LPs and tapes and get them inside the computer as well, then you can archive them on CD/DVD at a higher quality, while you would convert them into MP3 to save space on the hard drive, for instant playback, if you need the Radio, you can just plug your tuner straight to the soundcard, and that's it, you can even plug the TV if you you have expensive/high quality speakers hooked up on the soundcard. Otherwise, if your Hi/Fi amp + Speakers sound great, simply plug the sound card through it, and you can always get rid of your CD player at least...
 
I personally don't have Hi/Fi anymore, my whole music collection is on my hard drive inside my computer (always do regular backup though!), it's much more convenient and space saving.

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« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2006, 05:23:05 PM »
Very helpful. Thanks and as soon as I get some- thing rigged up and working I'll try a post.
You've been very helpful and I appreciate it.
NLP