Author Topic: Musing on the gender of instruments (Read 537 times)

olieoliver · « **Reply #15 on:** November 25, 2006, 06:02:12 PM »

Very educated advice Toby, and your wenge Rogue is very cool.

olieoliver · « **Reply #16 on:** November 25, 2006, 06:05:42 PM »

Sure hope my punctuation was correct.

tbrannon · « **Reply #17 on:** November 26, 2006, 12:32:19 AM »

Thanks Olie~ It's a killer bass- Europa/Rogue quick change switches + Signature Electronics. I love it and I'm sure SHE loves me back.

I hope I can afford another one some day (preferably a custom Elan Jazz bass), but if I never get another one, I'll be satisfied. The Rogue is a far better bass than I am a bass player....

EDIT: Lol- I'm not all switched on tonight- I totally missed the pun Olie- good one. Good thing I'm a science guy and not an english teacher. =)

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olieoliver · « **Reply #18 on:** November 26, 2006, 06:43:28 AM »

Toby, then my hypothesis (English teacher) was incorrect.

I have a MK with Europa electronics. At first I wasn't sure I liked them but after getting more familiar with them I really do like them.

tbrannon · « **Reply #19 on:** November 26, 2006, 09:39:43 AM »

*rimshot*

Olie-
Your hypothesis may have been incorrect, but you analyzed it well and came to a solid conclusion.

The part I like the most about the signature package + Rogue electronics is having both Q's and the pan between the two filters. Pretty amazing stuff. I'd be dangerous with a Series bass- way too many fiddling options!

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jsaylor · « **Reply #20 on:** November 26, 2006, 10:18:20 AM »

Toby,
What is this Elan Jazz bass you speak of? Alembic made a Jazz bass copy?

tbrannon · « **Reply #21 on:** November 26, 2006, 10:42:07 AM »

Jordan,
Here is a link to a thread with my idea + the basses you're wondering about. In my post from Sept 25th, there is a link to the Jazz style Alembic basses currently avaliable at Bass Centre UK- a few posts below that are my ideas for an Alembic Jazz.

BTW: The guy egging me on (crgaston) is who I bought the Rogue from- he's contributing to my delinquency. =)

Toby

crgaston · « **Reply #22 on:** November 26, 2006, 12:39:07 PM »

...and he's an English teacher! ;-)

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jsaylor · « **Reply #23 on:** November 26, 2006, 02:50:48 PM »

Toby,
That just ruined my day. Another company...making Fender copys....(sigh).
I always tell people, if you want a Fender, then get a Fender. Nomatter who makes it, the original is always the best.

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bob · « **Reply #24 on:** November 26, 2006, 03:20:50 PM »

Well, uhmm, no... About the only think that was approximately copied was the body shape. Not the bridge, tailpiece, peghead, tuners, certainly not the electronics. And oh, they also decided not to mimic the traditional dead spots in the neck, and Alembic doesn't do bolt-ons.

Some people just happen to like a particular body shape, but I don't think anyone could look at these - let alone play them - and call them Fender copies.

As to whether the original is always the best, that strikes me as a rather sweeping generalization, but I'd rather not get into that this afternoon. However, I would agree that if you really want (an original) Fender, then that's what you should get.

So try not to let it ruin your day :-)

tbrannon · « **Reply #25 on:** November 26, 2006, 03:20:58 PM »

Jordan,
Why would that ruin your day?

I'd disagree that the original is always the best- in fact, I'd argue that a Fender jazz bass and a jazz inspired Alembic are two completely different beasts-

I like the jazz bass body style, but love the sound, craftmanship and playability of Alembics....makes sense to combine the two doesn't it?

EDIT: Bob beat me to it. =)

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jsaylor · « **Reply #26 on:** November 26, 2006, 04:23:35 PM »

Ive never owned a Fender, so I don't know about these dead spots, but again, it seems unoriginal for a company to recreate a body shape as a standard model. So many other companys do this aswell. I just hate seeing people steal others designs. Now before you get on my case about this, I don't have a problem with inspired designs, but when you completely take someone elses body design, I disrespect that.

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bigredbass · « **Reply #27 on:** November 26, 2006, 05:54:53 PM »

I never thought of the BigRedBass or the Yamahas in terms of gender . . . I often imagine, however, who made them, the place they were made, and since I bought them all used, I wonder what they saw and did before I got them. Silly, huh?

I've always said of the BigRedBass: It owns me, NOT the other way around. So I guess it's an 'it'.

J o e y

crgaston · « **Reply #28 on:** November 26, 2006, 07:59:57 PM »

Alembic is a custom company, and will build pretty much what the customer orders. These were built for a store that ordered them this way. They were never a "standard model."

jsaylor · « **Reply #29 on:** November 26, 2006, 08:56:29 PM »

I see. Looks like I jumped the gun, yet again. Someone should revoke my gun permit. However look at the California special. Looks an awful alot like a Stratocaster. So if companys just order custom models, then are there any other standard models besides on their model page? Mica told me they have hundreds of templates of all they designed and things based off their standard models.

Edit: And what are these dead spots you speak of? Ive heard about them, but never knew what they were. What causes them? Ive only ever heard them said about Fenders, and Fender copies.

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