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lg71

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« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2006, 10:59:42 PM »
So, according to Mr Sadowsky, adding a Fully Parametric Filter would be good thing then - Right?

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« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2006, 06:40:07 AM »
Good try, Dave.
 
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« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2006, 09:05:05 AM »
I was going to let the rest of this thread pass on until your 2nd last post LG.
Firstly many people have very opinionated views when it concerns their likes and dislikes or what they believe.
Secondly to me Mr. W = Alembic. Period. What he and staff have to do to run the business is is beyond what you or I know. But judging from other comments by person who may have a clue..their very busy..
Thirdly..the parametric stuff is there, its just too big to fit right now..and then we go back to my second comment..
Forth and finally.. the picture added has this big brown thing at the back. Know what it is?
That's right. Things evolve and so do people and their needs. But if we still choose to use them doesn't make us Neanderthal's. Ignorance has a definition. The opposite of love isn't it.
NLP
 
 
 
 

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« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2006, 09:22:44 AM »
That double neck Ovation is cool Normand.  
 Oh yea, me play upright too.

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« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2006, 01:13:34 PM »
NLP - Why don't you go and by a Horse or Camel to go to work? Think bout it for minute...
Were you trying to show-off your personal collection really?  
If not, you are miles away and off target my man. Please don't disappoint me, and don't use words on my behalf that I didn't use - I don't allow you that. I never suggested anyone to get rid of their Double Bass. If we stop moving on - we can only look back! No? Oh YES.  
 
Well, this is turning in THE MUPPET SHOW now, my answer to all of you is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjgA98QZKsw
 
Next time, I won't bother wasting my valuable time helping newbies to get them started with sound card and computers.  
After all, if you've learnt something from me, I am NOT learning anything from! I am offended.  
 
Keep sucking on... you might get a Custom for Christmas.  
 
As far as I am aware, I am the ONLY member who proposed something constructive and tried hard to make it happen.
What has anyone else done?
 
1) The media player
2) Sound card/computer setup, so you can record and participate.
3) setup a raising fund so we can finance Ron research to come up with something NEW/DIFFERENT and make it available as an option (well you see they are already doing something similar for Musicman!). After all, the Wood options/pattern are fantastic, everyone can have a bass that look different to the guy next door, great, you bass can look so unique, great... well, to me given the choice, I'd rather have a bass that doesn't sound like any one else out there, so please, stop making me laugh when you ay that with a Low-Pass Filter and Q-switch you get a tremendous huge sound palette, AD a FULLY PARAMETRIC FILTER then we can talk...  
 
Anyone, Ron, if you are out there and reading all this, have nothing bad say against you, and I now who you are and what you have done. I am just hoping that you will make this available before you retire, and I mean it. I wouldn't want anyone to take
over your work, because it wouldn't sound like you anymore.
Things like these have happened before.
 
To the rest the you, please give me break and get lost, if you don't agree with me, it's because you simply just DON'T have clue about what have been discussing - IT'S CLEAR LIKE CLEAR WATER!

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« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2006, 01:45:36 PM »
what you like is to hear yourself talk ... regardless of what other people think it seems. Look at this thread, its like you are really pissed off that Alembic wont take your Sage advice as to what you think they should do.
 
You want me to get lost!... Dude Im already home.....
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« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2006, 01:50:26 PM »
Yep, I remember when I first discovered beer.
 
No, this is more like a sixties party, you had to watch the red acid.
 
A very nice try Dave.

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« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2006, 02:06:41 PM »
lg71,
You?ve obviously given your ideas a considerable amount of thought and posses a depth of technical knowledge most of us don?t. And in as few words as possible, I don?t think it?s your ideas that will put people off as much as the tone in which your ideas and your responses are presented. We're all guilty of that from time to time. Just something to consider.
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(Message edited by groovelines on December 05, 2006)

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« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2006, 02:30:52 PM »
If time is of the essence you should be able to sit down and design your own filter to meet your specs. After that it's just a matter of purchasing a few parts and assembling them.  
 
A little more civility would hurt either.  
 
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« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2006, 02:54:52 PM »
To quote the showroom page:
 
There is no other preamp, graphic EQ, parametric EQ, or filter unit anywhere from anyone that can shape tone like the Alembic SF-2.
 
One was just put on the For Sale page at $475.  Go for it.
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« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2006, 03:54:05 PM »
echo008 - Wrong! READ the first post on this thread as well as the TOPIC... The only one who was is ON TOPIC was The_8_Strings_King. Period. I amazed at how many of you are joining, still - you are OFF TOPIC... I am glad you're home safe - keep warm please.
 
j_Gary - Have you tried Opium? OFF TOPIC... (I heard it can enhance playing...)
 
groovilines - What makes me angry is the Stupidity and NON sense I read. I don't mean to laugh at people that don't know what I am talking about if it sound technical, BUT - I am asking them to NOT talk about things they have NO CLUES about... Simply. Read again please.
 
keiith_h NON constructive + OFF TOPIC - Read again please. If I knew how to do it this thread wouldn't have existed. Then, it's the Alembic sound I wanted upgraded - I wouldn't alter Ron's circuit by myself, I DO NOT HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE - DO YOU?
 
Lidon2001 - Thanks, that is 100% ON TOPIC
 
For those who stay off topic, please, get a Soundcard for Christmas and a couple of books on Music production/Mixing techniques, if you are really broke, you can find valuable info on the internet (beware the wrong/right settings thread...!!!) Then, once you have done so, Come back to me and talk further... YET - We'll STILL BE ON TOPIC in the end.
 
My Christmas present to you is this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUz0GxTZ1bQ

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« Reply #41 on: December 05, 2006, 04:19:29 PM »
Hey, I wondered what happened to the soup nazi!
 
Oops, sorry, OFF TOPIC!!!!!!
 
Did like the Benson though, smooth stuff.

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« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2006, 04:27:00 PM »

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« Reply #43 on: December 05, 2006, 04:43:36 PM »
I've read this thread from top to bottom, lg. My comment  was to point out that insulting people and insinuating that others are stupid isn't the way to go. Insinuating that you'll only bend Alembic's ear if you have a fat wallet is probably the most offensive remark I've read in this entire forum.
You must afford some respect if you expect the same in kind.
I like your ideas, but don't get upset if myself and others don't understand completely and then speak out of turn or ignorance. Consider it an opportunity to teach and correct. I've always learned more from someone that took the time to make sure I understood what they were saying than I ever did from a whipping.

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« Reply #44 on: December 05, 2006, 04:45:17 PM »
LG, why on Earth are you being so negative to our fellow club members?  I was taken back by your comments, and I went back to re-read the entire thread to see what could've prompted such negativity... and I don't see anything.  I see that some people have arguably strayed off-topic a bit... that happens sometimes, usually not a biggie, and I understand you're frustated that there doesn't seem to be much support for the mid control.  That bummed me a little too.  But one  thing I've found interesting/enlightening about this thread is the fact that Alembic clearly does have specific, thought-out reasons for their position on this issue.
 
They've clearly considered it, and their policy, however much you and I and anyone else may disagree, is based on their best judgement.  I may (and often do) disagree with other's best judgement... but I wouldn't expect nor ask another to act against their best judgment (although when appropriate, I have attempted, and sometimes -rarely- succeeded in persuading another to re-evaluate his/her decision-making process... I don't recall any instance of it succeeding by employing condescension or name-calling, however).
 
You're out of line, bub.
 
I fully support the desire for mid-control; I like the controls on my bass.  For the record, this thread prompted me to play around with them, and I have confirmed that I pretty much DON'T like to use the NECK pickup for boosting -it DOES actually muddy up the sound.  Now of course, that's just one bass, and I'm clueless about which specific frequency it is.  The BRIDGE pickup DOES sound great with the boost -but again, I don't know what frequency it is.
 
But that's a separate issue.  The other members here have just stated their opinions in a civilized way.  Some of the comments have strayed off-topic; some have perhaps not been helpful; but none of them have justified the obvious and extreme condescension, insults, and negativity you've expressed to our fellow club members.
 
And I for one, think that pretty much all of Dave's comments are valid/salient.
 
Like you, I wish they offered mid-controls, and am bummed they don't.  I would've like to have them on my new custom -but I've got no doubt I'll be VERY happy without 'em.  I've enjoyed this thread (until your recent borderline vicious posts) because it enlightened me about the whys/technical aspects of their policy and their reasoning.
 
But that's all separate now.  I submit you should take a deep breath, and take a couple steps backward, and try and calmly, objectively look at what you've said to our fellow members, and maybe even consider an apology -or several.
 
However much you make dislike or agree with the opinions posted on this thread, no one has said anything to justify the lashing you've dealt out.
 
Do the right thing... please.