Bartolinis on Alembics?

[roberto]

Guys,I think its getting too far.!
So if nobody ever did replace the ori pup's with Barts,then Ill take my chances.
Ive been a session player for 25 and more years.And I KNEW FOR SURE that you have got to have different sounds to handle different tunes/types of music.Ive played Foderas,Kensmiths.Tobiases.They all sounded AWESOME!!but uncomfortable in my hands.SO thats why Im gonna put their elect.on one of my Alembic.
Bye guys.
Thanks for the inputs and opinions.I appreciate your concern.
ANd JAGS,Im NoT NUTS.
Good idea Paul!
Robert

[57basstra]

Robert, please allow me to formally apologize for my ill-considered comment posted three steps upward. (I sometimes get swept away without fully considering the feelings of others and how my comment(s) may be received.) Please don't leave for good! Nothing said has been with a mean spirit, I'm sure.
 
With all respect, David

[son_of_magni]

olieoliver - I would personally never replace my Alembic electronics, BUT it is your Bass Roberto to do with as you wish.
This cat be may be able to help. I believe he used to work for Alembic
 
I wish
 
I have built with both Alembic and Bartolini pups.  I like them both.  If anyone wants to put Barts in  their Alembic please let me know and I'll take the old pups off their hands...

[811952]

Karl,
 
Good to see you back in these parts again!  I think it's been awhile, hasn't it?
 
John

[son_of_magni]

Yeah it's been a while John.  I do come by and lurk once in a while though.  Been busy building instruments and playing hockey in my spare time.  But I know where to come when I need some inspiration!
- Karl

[olieoliver]

Sorry Karl, my mistake. Not sure where I got that idea.  
 
I've seen your basses and even bid on a few, very nice looking axes.

[son_of_magni]

Hey, no problem.  If anyone thinks I learned my skills at the best quality bass maker in the world I consider that high praise!
- Karl

[keurosix]

Robert,
I think you are on to something. It is your instrument, and your job to please the boss who hired you to play bass. Your Persuader should have enough room to add a Bart PU and still play like an Alembic. You should consider a pickup selector switch that would allow you to play  the Alembic output alone, the Bart output, and a combination of both. I would venture to guess your boss would like the combo sound best. I have a Modulus Graphite Quantum TBX 5 string (neck-thru) that came with 3 bartolini pick ups and a bart pre-amp - an upgrade from the stock EMG's. when I finally got it, I played it till the strings died, and so did the sound. Barts are subtle. The Alembic circuit will allow you to keep working with dead strings. You can't get the same dynamics from Bart pick ups. I added a custom Alembic circuit with 3 pickups to the Modulus, and to this day I think it's sound is hard to beat. It has to do with blending three pick ups! You might want to consider adding the Bart to the 2 Alembic pickups so you have a total of 3 pickups! A killer axe! You can talk to a knowledgable dealer about the Barts, and he will answer your concerns about fingerboard radius. A different radius might give an uneven response across the strings, but it would probably be very minor. If the Bart has a 14 radius and the Alembic is 12, then the outside strings would be closer to the pick up and would be a bit louder. I think a more important consideration (and easier to satisfy) would be string spacing for the magnet to pick up all the string vibrations. Also, if you plan to combine the outputs, impedence matching of all the components should be considered. Does your Persuader have the PJ style pickups? If so, then a Bart pickup should fit the cavity without modification. You might have to add some resistors to match the outputs. This is where a guitar tech would come in handy. Good luck.
Here's a pic of the Modulus:
 

 
kRIS

[roberto]

Good idea Kris,but Persuaders come with AXY's and there is not enough room for additional pickup.
BTW 3 pickups sounds like a killer bass!!
Thanks  
Robert

[adriaan]

Robert,
 
Persuaders were actually the showcase for the Activator pickups, so they came with one or two P and/or J shaped pickups. If you see a Persuader with soapbars (AXYs) it's probably a Spoiler, which has the same body shape.
 
How to tell them apart ...
 
The letter on the serial number: P for a Persuader, S for a Spoiler.
 
The shape of the truss rod cover: half-round for a Persuader, square for a Spoiler.
 
Persuader has volume + volume + filter (Q boost always on). Spoiler has volume + four-way pickup switch + filter + Q switch.
 
Then again, don't be surprised if you find variations on those specs.

[mica]

The Persuaders came with any Activator pickup shape, including the AXY. You'll find PJ most common, but there are 2JZ and even 2P Persuaders out there.

[adriaan]

I sit corrected.

[FC Bass]

Jason Newsted (ex Metallica) Persuader JJ:
[img">http://club.alembic.com/Images/393/39087.jpg[/img">
  And from the Showcase section:  "Standard" Persuader layout:  Persuader with AXY's and Q-switch, Purple Heart laminates:
 (click on picture for the full version)  (Message edited by fc_spoiler on April 27, 2007)

[adriaan]

Here's my  with electronics that look like Persuader with a Q switch, but are volume + pan + filter + 3-way Q switch.
 
(Message edited by adriaan on April 27, 2007)
 
(Message edited by adriaan on April 27, 2007)

[FC Bass]

I just noticed that Jason Newsted's Elan has 3 pickups (J/P/J)