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jacko

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« Reply #30 on: November 09, 2006, 04:36:41 AM »
To elaborate on Bill's John paul Jones pic, I believe the first zeppelin album he used an alembic on was Presence.
 
Just about anything Nazareth have brought out since around 1978 would have Pete Agnew's Alembics on them. The recent(ish) Homecoming Live DVD/CD package is an excellent showcase, both of the bass and the player.
 
Graeme

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« Reply #31 on: November 09, 2006, 05:24:45 PM »
A Norman Watt-Roy mention!  Cool!  NWR is one of the most underappreciated bassists out there. I've been trying to ace that Rhythm Stick lick for dog's years and still can't play it consistently.
 
When I saw the Blockheads back in '7, well, er, a long time ago, he was playing a Jazz.
 
As for JPJ, there's no missing the dinosaur-eating-cars roar of his 8-string Alembic on Achilles' Last Stand.
 
Paul

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« Reply #32 on: November 10, 2006, 02:42:52 AM »
Paul,
 
You may find that a gentle bit of compression might help leveling out the Rhythm Stick line.
 
I wouldn't call it a lick - it goes on, and on, and on, and on. And then some more. Also very bubbly in a Bernard Edwards kind of way, and laidback at the same time.
 
Defeats categorization!

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« Reply #33 on: November 10, 2006, 05:50:51 AM »
Any Frank Zappa/ Mothers releases with Tom Fowler on bass would be Alembic. Roxy and Elsewhere, Overnite Sensation, Apostrophe, One Size Fits All, etc.
 
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« Reply #34 on: November 10, 2006, 06:56:30 AM »
cozmik_cowboy wrote:
Jack Casady, w/mid to late Jefferson Airplane, early Hot Tuna; I'm not sure how late it goes.
 
Actually virtually none of Jack's recordings feature his Alembic bass - I think a few studio tracks + the 30 Seconds Over Winterland live sessions.
 
Most of the era you refer to was recorded with the Guild Starfire, which, at different points, included some Alembic mods, but AFAICT, the mods were added to the Hagstrom pickups, which were retained .
 
Dan Schwartz in an article explains it all thus:
 
The Jazz bass is still Jack's main instrument on Baxter's, though towards the end of these sessions he started trying out his new Guild.  
 
   The tale of Jack's Guild Starfires roughly begins with Augustus Stanley Owsley (otherwise known as Bear) taking the instrument in late 67 or early 68 to do some circuit mods with Ron Wickersham, one of the founders of Alembic. Their circuit was a variable Q resonant filter, with Darlington emitter-followers at the pickup to lower output impedance before the filter. Originally a natural finish spruce/maple instrument, an L.A. luthier named Roy Noble refinished it dark brown, coloring over the binding somewhat. Jorma's wife Margareta created an abstract design that was inlaid into the peghead by Chuck Erikson. As a surprise for Jack, Chuck stuck some model-train lights under the inlay, to be battery-powered through the second and third strings. They didn't get it working, but apparently Owsley did, after being told they were in there a year later. Jack used this bass for the next three Airplane albums. It was stolen shortly after the Woodstock festival, and Jack bought another, a Sunburst '68 or '69, on the road. He shipped it back to Wickersham immediately with orders to rush. There wasn't time for woodworking, so Ron sawed out part of the top around the lower f-hole, installing three magnesium channels for the controls. The circuit was an update of the previous filter, installed in time for the Berkeley performance recorded on the first Hot Tuna album. Jack used this bass until early '72, when he got the Alembic.  
 
   Jack's new bass was the first all-Alembic instrument, built by Rick Turner, with pickups of his design, and elaborate electronics by Wickersham, including two channels of state-variable filters (low-, band- and high-pass) with variable Q and direct volume controls to combine the unfiltered sound with the filtered. There were 4 or 5 sets of interchangeable pickups on sliding rails so that Jack could experiment with their position and interchangeable bridge saddles of different materials. At some point over the next three years, the bass got dropped onto concrete, and after going back to Alembic for repair of body cracks, Jack felt it never sounded the same. (The instrument is currently intact with the exception of burned out neck LED's and standard Alembic PF-6 electronics on purpleheart faceplates instead of the original birds-eye maple).
 
   Jack replaced the Alembic with a short-scale Flying V bass with a mahogany body by Glenn Quan attached to an old Guild Thunderbird neck and 60's Guild pickups. He used this bass during Hot Tuna's hard-rocking period.
 
Frank

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« Reply #35 on: November 10, 2006, 11:42:25 AM »
Fascinating! Thanks.
 
David

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« Reply #36 on: November 10, 2006, 04:12:19 PM »
I wonder who has custody of Jack's Alembic #1?  It is certainly an instrument of major historical significance.  Seems to me that the most appropriate place for it would be the Santa Rosa Mothership, where it could occasionally be loaned to the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame for public viewing.

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« Reply #37 on: November 11, 2006, 03:59:19 AM »
72-01 - That's a weird story.From memory, so some details may be off:
There's a guy named David Hardy that somehow acquired the bass, left it at a music shop in the 80s, the shop went bankrupt, some other guy acquired it at a bankruptcy sale, and he pretty much lays low, since this David Hardy persists in his claim to the bass.
 
Old Alembic Board Post by David Hardy
 
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« Reply #38 on: November 11, 2006, 06:48:23 AM »
Concering Zappa and Tom Fowler's Alembic:  
 
Fowler got his Alembic sometime in the spring or early summer of 74, which means that both Overnite  Sensation and Roxy & Elsewhere were recorded with Fenders. In fact, you can see Tom with a black P-Bass on the cover of Roxy.  One Size Fits All, Bongo Fury and YCDTOSA VOl II are the three Alembic albums.

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« Reply #39 on: December 25, 2006, 02:14:10 AM »
Saw a clip of Rose Royce on TV just the other day.... Bass Player was playing an Alembic Series I not sure if he recorded with it but the live sound was fantastic....
 
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« Reply #40 on: December 25, 2006, 11:04:21 AM »
I hope nobody thinks I'm dissing anyone here because I'm not.  Weird Al's Straight Outta Lynwood lists Micah (sic) Wickersham, Alembic under the Thanks to column.  I haven't spotted it yet, though.
Rich

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« Reply #41 on: December 25, 2006, 04:06:36 PM »
Hey, you forget Wizzard, the bassist of Mother's Finest who played Alembic in the 1980's. Mother's Finest Live !!
 

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« Reply #42 on: December 25, 2006, 05:43:02 PM »
major tom by peter schilling sure sounds like alembic to me. anyone know?

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« Reply #43 on: January 17, 2007, 07:47:29 PM »
Convoy by Chip Davis and Bill Fries (aka C.W. McCall) and most of the Mannheim Steamroller stuff through the mid-90's by Eric Hansen on a beautiful Series I std point long scale (which can be seen on my intro thread)-hubwolf

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« Reply #44 on: January 24, 2007, 01:10:23 PM »
Correct about Tom Fowler and his earlier use of the Fender Precision, but he has also played a Fender Jazz bass (can be seen on Dub Room Special, which features some Alembic action as well IIRC).
 
There is also a picture showing Tom Fowler playing an Alembic on Jean Luc Ponty's Imaginary Voyage album, so I guess he used the Alembic on that one too.