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hendixclarke

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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2007, 08:17:29 PM »
Good news people!!!
 
I called up Delta Air today and the official word is: guitars (bass) are allowed on the their flights.
 
Soft cases are all you need!
 
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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2007, 08:23:18 PM »
... you don't need to check your guitars with baggage folks!!!!

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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2007, 11:39:27 PM »
Hal,
 
It bears repeating:
 
Airline policy to the contrary, your bass WILL GO IN CARGO if the flight attendant decides so.
 
I wouldn't want things to unexpectedly turn ugly for you.

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« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2007, 12:16:26 AM »
Here's my angle on it. I've been flying backwards and forwards round the world the last 3 years with my band. It seems to me that whether you can carry on or not does not depend generally on airline policy but the person at the checkin desk. I of course would prefer to carryon all the time but due to the uncertainty of getting a yes, I have decided to take the option that protects my instrument from damage which is to flight case it.  I know that does not protect it from theft or getting delayed or getting diverted to another airport. Fortunately I have always arrived at the same place as my luggage.
 
Only one occasion when I took the guitar to the USA for a gig last year february I was refused permission to carry it on the plane back. That was when we flew back from Atlanta to London. The air staff refused to allow me on to the plane with the guitar in gig bag unless Paid for a seat. ( I had my alembic with me so you can see I was concerned)..
Even when I pointed out how stupid that rule was because if my guitar was on a seat and if the plane had heavy turbulence, the guitar may work its way out of the seat and hit someone. Far safer in the over head, and In that case would they indemnify me against any injury claims caused since the guitar would be carried under airline policy.... NO ANSWER.
 
Anyway in my experience I cannot take the risk of taking a guitar in a gigbag and find I can't take it on board so I always now take a flight case and check in to oversize baggage. My case has so far been damaged dropped from the baggage cart. saw it through the plane window, come back soaking wet. But the guitar has never been damaged.
 
In the UK the airlines and the Musicians Union worked out a deal where musicians travelling to professional gigs abroard are allowed to carry their instruments on board if it will fit into the overhead. Since that ruling came out last year I've still not had an airline give me a definitive YES.
 
Interestingly though when I've seen people carrying an acoustic guitar to the checking looking like they are going on holiday, they always seem to be allowed to take it on board. Maybe thats because it doesn't look like an electric guitar. So maybe you should get one of those guitar cases with feminine curves and they may allow you on.
 
Hope that helps.  
 
As a light hearted extra, you do get to see a great x-ray of the guitar as it goes through the security machine., All the innards,  the twin truss rods etc can be seen clearly. It's great. As yet I havent managed to persuade the staff to send me a photo.
 
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« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2007, 03:51:26 AM »
Great views from Jazzyvee.
I travel to Lanzarote in the Canary islands to play every August, and I use a HISCOX case--no fancy flight case or anything like that, but a good strong bass case. I can arrive and go straight to the gig. Still practically in tune!
No neck probs, humidy probs--zilch
 
Just my $0.02
 
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« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2007, 07:25:27 AM »
If you have to check your bass, there is a nice Alembic road case in the FS Forum.
 
 
 

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« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2007, 10:33:26 AM »
That case physically looks about the same quality as the  case I bought on Ebay for my Europa 5 its a monster of a case in size, padding and is satisfyingly heavy. If any baggage handler can throw that thing about I doubt if I'd really want to challenge him/her physically.  lol
 
I've not taken it abroad but I imagine the excess baggage would be a heavy price to pay.
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« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2007, 11:13:08 AM »
Just wondering:  why is this thread in Serial Number / History Requests?  
 
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« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2007, 07:13:34 PM »
Yes Bill, you're right; I need to move this thread.  But not tonight; I think I might turn in soon.

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« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2007, 06:47:11 PM »
I just keep wondering why they would let me purchase an extra ticket for it when it would not legally strap into a seat. There is no way a case would fit on a seat.  
 
Whenever we travel with my 3 year old son, we get special privleges with the stroller and him in it. We get to board the plane first then they give us a tag for the stroller, we leave the stroller right at the plane entrance then they run it down by hand and place it in baggage and then return it right away at plane opening with wheelchairs by hand. This seems like the best way to make sure it gets handled properly into baggage and back. I wonder if someone could pay extra and request that method?
 
And that's my ($03. cents worth)(cost of inflation).
 
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« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2007, 10:34:07 PM »
Now boarding those with small children or guitars.  Yeah, works for me.
 
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« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2007, 10:00:48 AM »
Pablo:
 
What you are describing is referred to as gate checking.  Even when I flew to Aspen last month with a flight case, I still tried to talk the agents, security people, etc., into letting me carry the guitar to the gate and gate check it there.  I've been able to do this a few times in the past when I took the less-than-smart chance of flying with a guitar in a regular old hard case.  On the Aspen trip they said no at the counter.  Bradley has it exactly right:  you are at the mercy of several individual airline employees, any of whom can arbitrarily say no at any time.  The only exception I've found is JetBlue.  For that reason, they'll always get my business if they are an option where I'm going.
 
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« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2007, 02:30:37 AM »
When I bought my MK signature from Rudy's Music Stop I was flying back to the UK thru' Virgin, it had to go in the hold, they placed loads of 'fragile' stickers on it and it came back unscathed.
I have heard loads of other horror stories, personally if I was doing a gig abroad as a one off I think I would just buy a reasonable bass/guitar for it and leave my pride & joy at home.

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« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2007, 02:50:41 AM »
I gotta agree with Terry.  If I were flying to a gig, Id spend the cash on a cheap bass to use.  Either that or get a heavy duty flight case.  ID never check an instrument worth thousands of dollars, and certainly wouldnt count on being allowed to carry it on.

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« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2007, 08:45:16 PM »
I took my 1976 Series I (softbag) on a Delta flight with no problems at all people. Forget about the horrors with taking your Alembic on Delta flights because their overhead cabs can fit your bass with room to spare. I walked on the plane without a word from anybody and the people were all very friendly as I boarded.  
 
The key, is to take a plane with 0 stops so you don't have to worry about other airline policies. But as for Delta, you don't need to worry about a thing. Just make sure you take a soft case because  if you go walking with a steel boxy case, you might as well check it in because those cases don't look like a guitar case and people will not identify with them as a musical instrument but as just cargo.
 
My Alembic is home with me in California and I am happy.