Author Topic: Choice on loudspeakers ? (Read 701 times)

pierreyves · « **Reply #30 on:** September 15, 2007, 05:52:54 PM »

buy instrument on e-bay is a non sense.
If I can have Dr Bass speakers (because shipping is very expensive, about 750$ for 2 cabinets), my choice will go to SWR Goliath III and Triad, as mentionned because Thomann compagny in Germany deliver your order at home, with 3 years of full warranty, come take at home if you have problem and they have the best prices in Europe but the choice is reduced, for me, not what you have in USA.
A testimonial of SWR owner ? Clarkee ? ;o)))

rockbassist · « **Reply #31 on:** September 16, 2007, 08:19:18 PM »

I tried SWR, I was not impressed with the tone at all. At one point they were a division of Fender. I will eventually buy Eden or EBS! If you want to talk about testimonials Marcus Miller who most bass players agree has the best tone ever uses EBS. I have an EBS retailer less than 10 miles from me but a 300 watt head is almost $3,000. I haven't decided if I want to spend the extra money

jacko · « **Reply #32 on:** September 17, 2007, 04:45:08 AM »

For what it's worth, i'm using EBS neo cabinets. I've recently swapped my 2x12 for mike pisanek's Eden 210XST to see how much it might fill out the bottom end. So far in rehearsals the only difference I've found is the weight. Time Eden started making neo speakers methinks. I think I'll be getting my EBS cab back before next weekend's gig.

graeme

pierreyves · « **Reply #33 on:** September 19, 2007, 05:36:38 PM »

Barry ?? I send one more time e-mail to Dr Bass ... always the same answer .. or notification ...

pierreyves · « **Reply #34 on:** September 20, 2007, 10:31:03 AM »

Barry, Marc Serio answered me by mail but I cannot write him, he has a protection not conventional for mail ??
I quote:
The SMTP Server program
: host smtp.where.secureserver.net[208.109.80.149] said:
553 Attack detected from pool 193.252.23.111. (in reply to RCPT TO
command)
incredible ... please say to Marc to change somnthing on his smtp

georgie_boy · « **Reply #35 on:** September 20, 2007, 10:52:53 AM »

Have to agree with the EDEN suggestion.
I heard the rig that Jacko used, He had borrowed Mike Pisaneck's 2 X 2x10 cabs, and plugged on to en Eden Navigator and QSC system----------------------WOW!!!
Just my $0.02 worth

G

kmh364 · « **Reply #36 on:** September 21, 2007, 11:01:53 AM »

FWIW, I've got two Eden 210XST's (4ohms ea. originally to take advantage of the Eden WT-550's ability to deliver massive power @ a 2ohm parallel load)) cabs. While I haven't done a side-by-side comparo, I've beeen told that they outperform a single 410XST when used as a pair. Either way, they sound great and can dissipate a lot of clean power.

Good luck in your quest!

Cheers,

Kevin

pierreyves · « **Reply #37 on:** September 21, 2007, 11:18:53 AM »

thank's for your answers !

jacko · « **Reply #38 on:** September 22, 2007, 05:58:46 AM »

Here's an interesting thought. I recently swapped my EBS 2x12 neo for one of Mike Pisanek's eden 210xst cabs. To be perfectly honest, neither of us could hear much of a difference. maybe a tiny bit more low end thud using the eden with my ebs 410, perhaps a touch more high end definition for mike but not enough to make a difference when gigging. needless to say we've swapped back. The next experiment will be to build two stacks out of the 4 cabinets. Should give us 1200watts per channel. Enough to give even th emost arrogant guitarist pause for thought;-)

Graeme

p.s. George - you can hear my full EBS rig in Falkirk on the 23rd November and again on the 27th December. Hope you can make one of those.

somatic · « **Reply #39 on:** September 22, 2007, 11:36:39 PM »

Pierre-Yves,

I have a very strong preference for quality PA style rigs. I find they're much clearer, generally go louder and deeper for the same sort of money as a bass cab. I dial in the frequency response and any distortion via the preamp and feel this gives me more flexibility and ability to sit well in the mix and be heard clearly, but not be too prominent. Poweramp is a Yamaha P7000S and my speakers are custom with an 18 RCF crossing to a 15 coax, biamped.

Shipping from the US might be expensive, so perhaps it may be best to look at European brands such as Markbass or Tech-Systems. I have no personal experience with them but Markbass is definitely flavour of the month on Talkbass.

pierreyves · « **Reply #40 on:** September 23, 2007, 02:19:37 AM »

somatic, what is your preference ?
EV, Yamaha, other ?
Markbass is to expensive for me...
Maybe I will mix PA & bass cabs ?
Thank's for your post ... I LOVE Australia...

jazzyvee · « **Reply #41 on:** September 23, 2007, 08:06:51 AM »

I have seen a dual; 18 800w cab for sale and was wondering if that would be good or would the bottom end be overpowering? It looks like a PA sub cabinet.
Jazzyvee

jazzyvee · « **Reply #42 on:** September 23, 2007, 08:07:55 AM »

I have seen a dual; 18 800w EV cab for sale and was wondering if that would be a good addition to my rig or would the bottom end be overpowering? It looks like a PA sub cabinet.
Jazzyvee

jacko · « **Reply #43 on:** September 24, 2007, 01:11:06 AM »

Jazzy. I think you'd need to pair it with another cabinet for the highs. In my experience (which was only for about 6 months ownership) an 18 doesn't move fast enough to cope with fast playing or the top end.

I'm guessing you're talking about the EV Eliminator KW sub. According to their manual, it's frequency response is only 40hz - 300hz so it would only function as a sub.
For a better range, I'd consider either the EDEN d410XST - 30hz - 14Khz or the EBS NEO-212 - 40hz - 18Khz. personally, I don't think I'd ever want to use PA speakers to reproduce my Bass.

For reference, these are the usual tunings for a 6 string bass...
B E A D G C
Natural 30.938 41.250 55.000 73.333 97.777 130.369
Even-tempered 30.868 41.203 55.000 73.416 97.999 130.812

Graeme

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pierreyves · « **Reply #44 on:** September 24, 2007, 02:06:55 AM »

I prefer 15 for sub et 10 for high with tweeter.
Jazzyvee was speaking about good addition for his 18 EV.