Author Topic: F-2B vs. F-1X  (Read 208 times)

hammondd

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F-2B vs. F-1X
« on: July 29, 2005, 04:14:00 PM »
I have a used F-2B and was wondering what the prevailing opinion might be:  is there any reason to replace the F-2B with an F-1X?  I don't ever hook up more than one bass at a time during a gig.  Any thoughts on running both at the same time off one power amp (QSC PLX3002) and an Essence 4?  I plan to add an SF-2 one day when I find one at a good price.  Thanks--

bonesrad

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F-2B vs. F-1X
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2005, 01:33:02 PM »
I would say the F-1X would probably be a more useful tool given your setup.  I'm assuming that you are currently only using one channel on your F-2B.  The F-1X has the same channel, with the added features of an XLR out, effects loop (great for when you add the SF-2), and the capability to split the signal for bi-amping.
 
I hope this helps.
 
Bones

hammondd

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F-2B vs. F-1X
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2005, 12:38:19 PM »
Are you implying that you Can't hook up an SF-2 to an F-2B, if there's no effects loop?

dfung60

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F-2B vs. F-1X
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2005, 04:16:27 PM »
You can use an SF-2 with the F-2B, but, because there's no effects loop, it's a bit of a hassle.  You'd plug into the F-2B, then take the output of the F-2B into the input of the SF-2.  The SF-2 output would then go to your power amp.
 
The hassle from this setup is that as you increase and decrease the gain of the F-2B, you may need to reduce the input gain on the SF-2 to keep it from being overdriven.  The output level of the SF-2 will then act like a master volume level.
 
If you don't change output volume a lot, then it's not that big of a deal.  If you do change output level on the F-2B a lot, then it's sort of a tweaky hassle.
 
I guess you could also put the SF-2 first, then take it's output into the F-2B.  If you change preamp volume a lot but leave the instrument levels fairly even, this may be a better setup, but I suspect the SF-2 would probably prefer a little hotter input than you'd get directly from the bass.
 
The effects loop of the F-1X has a fairly constant output level which can feed the SF-2 and returns to receive the filtered output so it's definitely less hassle (and that's why it's there after all).  
 
This is not all exactly equivalent.  In the F-1X, the effects loop is before the tone controls, so that may sound different than an effects loop after the tone (admittedly, this would be a bigger deal with something like a distortion unit than another set of tone controls).
 
I don't know too much about the F-2B schematic, but it may not be too hard to create effects loop points if you really wanted to go that route.  Because the F-2B is an all-tube design, the proper nominal output level may not be available at an easy point in the circuit.
 
David Fung

bonesrad

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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2005, 04:19:48 PM »
Not at all.  You can go from the F-2B output to the SF-2 input.  I just think that given a mono setup, and the ability to send a signal via the XLR out, post SF-2, that running the SF-2 in the effects loop of the F-1X is a slicker setup.
 
Just my opinion,
Bones