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the_mule

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« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2004, 08:44:45 AM »
I've got a fretted full maple necked 1977 Fender Precision that's still in a great condition. But I believe there's definitely some truth in the difference in quality that's been produced by Fender and other companies over the years. I've surely seen some dirty necks in the past!
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« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2004, 07:03:43 AM »
I recall reading in a Guitar Player interview with John Paul Jones back in the late '70s that he had worked with Alembic on removable fingerboards made out of aluminum, but that they weren't viable for reasons he didn't elaborate.  It was the same article where he described the 30-inch speaker Multivox (I think) built for him, that sounded like crap...

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« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2004, 07:26:00 AM »
A couple of years ago, I saw a Series bass on eBay which had removable fingerboards. I wasn't sure if it was an aftermarket job or something - wonder if it was legit? He had a fretless stainless steel one if I remember right.
 
I am still curious about the wood in the fingerboard in the picture here.  
 
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« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2004, 08:18:18 AM »
Greetings All,
Here are some comments, updates etc on the various preceeding posts.
 
On special requests by the customer whether it's for a fingerboard, scale length, wood, body change etc., we try to please the customers desire for the instrument he has proably been thinking about for  years. The exceptions to this are when we feel that it will not be a servicable modification i.e. be careful what you wish for, someone might give it to you. My policies regarding this position are based on early experiences with giving some people what they wanted against my better judgement only to have them unhappy with the instrument later and somehow forgetting I tried to disuade them from that path. The result was an unhappy customer and an instrument that has our name on it, the absolute  antithesis of what we try to acheive. I have had some customers  go to other builders after I have declined a request only to come back at a later date having  sold the other bass and order the one recommended previously. Bottomline-If I or Mica say it's not a good idea, it probably isn't.
 
Yes we worked w/JPJ on that project at his request, I personally never was very keen ot it or the removable magnetic fingerboard project either. I think multi-tasking is best left for other things not instruments.
 
We have made fingerboards out of other materials all that were mentioned in a previous post. We choose ebony for it sound, durablity and strength. We don't like laquer since it does wear off and looks crappy as Val said. We like the oiled fingerboard as on classical instruments, there is less drag when played and if cared for looks great in 50 years or more.
 
We did make a few maple fingerboards. In the early 80's John Lodge wanted a Blonde Bass. It was Series II Satinwood top & back, vermilion accent pinstripes, maple core, maple neck with vermilion pinstipes, maple fingerboard, mother of pearl ovals.
 
Yes we did a few strange requests for my Norwewgian distributor Trond Trufte. One of them was a black instrument that was dragged about the parking lot to give it a road rash look. He wanted it to look like a Harley that had skidded on the pavement.  
 
Rickenbachers? Love 'em, both basses and guitars especially a Rick 12 string guitar. They were a source of inspiration, afterall we are all products of what has come before us to a degree. We just try  to find our own path and voice both in instrument making as well as playing dontcha think?
 
-Susan

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« Reply #34 on: March 09, 2004, 08:39:21 AM »
Hi Susan!!!
 
Very well said!!!  I'm glad you spoke up and elaborated on this.  
 
You know before I do any kind of modification to anything, let's say for instance I'm tearing a wall down in my house, I always ask someone who has many years of experience first so they can tell me what to do and NOT to do.  In this case my dad.  Good ol pop advised me before I go cutting anything to find ALL of the wiring in the wall because he knew that was a ride to the hospital for me. HAH!!!
 
Like Nigel had said earlier.  It takes a true craftsman to say NO to something they feel shouldn't be done.  This is why we call on your expertise.  Now can I call you and Mica about putting a third story dormer on the house or should we stop at the basses.... HA!!!
 
BTW-I remember that bass for John Lodge.  Wasn't that in your catalog at one point?
 
Peace,
Dino

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« Reply #35 on: March 09, 2004, 09:16:24 AM »
Dino - for reference in tearing a wall down there's a particular Fawlty Towers episode where John Cleese fumes over just such a thing done by a contractor... ;-)
 
Susan: can you identify the fingerboard here? Looks like Rosewood to me.
 
EffClef
 
PS Manuel!!!!!!!

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« Reply #36 on: March 09, 2004, 10:56:26 AM »
Dino,
 
Yes that particular instrument for John Lodge was featured in an older catalog, nice of you to remember.
 
And as Mica can attest to I have no problem with the word No.
 
BTW- I handle all the remodeling on the homefront and actually I did design a Catherdral Dormer for our 106 year old little farmhouse along with the stairs to acess the remodel of the attic space. The guy doing the remodel said it couldn't be done. He wanted the stairs cutting through the dinng area, no I said, my house is small enough without that. I drew out a double turn stairway with a dormer for the headroom needed at the top, put in a long window with a half circle on top in the stairwells outside wall for additional light, worked well.  
 
-Susan

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« Reply #37 on: March 09, 2004, 11:30:43 AM »
Susan,  
 
I knew I could count on you!!!!  Our house was built in 1891.  We've had a few contractors and architects come in and tell us that an addition can be done but it wouldn't be worth it.  Maybe I should talk to you instead in terms of designing the addition.
Sorry to get way off the subject too.
 
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« Reply #38 on: March 09, 2004, 07:06:32 PM »
Susan,
I'd like to see your stairs.  I just built my house mostly by my own (and my lovely wife's) hand, so I can appreciate someone's creativity (I own an Alembic, for Pete's sake!).  And I will accept if you say No.

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« Reply #39 on: March 09, 2004, 11:03:55 PM »
Brother John ...you have to admit that Susan , I'd like to see your stairs is ...well ...huh ...kinda weird statement (iff out of context of course).
 
Paul the bad one

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« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2004, 01:23:27 AM »
Paul,
 
can you stop doing that. It's too early in the morning to laugh so loud. You are killing me.
 
Manfred

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« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2004, 08:23:18 AM »
Paul TBO,
You are one twisted man...  :-)
John