Author Topic: [SOLD] Fernandes PS-5 Power Supply  (Read 810 times)

fivestringdan

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[SOLD] Fernandes PS-5 Power Supply
« on: December 01, 2024, 08:14:13 AM »
Power transformer is on the back instead of internal. I don't know who did the mods. It's all working.
$300
« Last Edit: December 20, 2024, 02:17:53 PM by adriaan »

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Re: DS-5
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2024, 08:50:27 AM »
Yikes!  Those are some pretty heavy handed mods.  Is this something that has come into your possession?  How / why?  If you take the feet off you can slide the internal chassis back and out of the shell.  I'm curious to see if there's anything left inside the box. 

Based on the non-stock isolating washers on the 1/4" jacks I'm going to guess that the original owner was chasing a hum problem?  That may have led to them moving the power transformer outside of the box away from the signal path.  But I'd also hazard a guess that these mods were unsuccessful in fixing the issue - which was more likely rf coming through the pickups.  Not a grounding issue nor a power transformer related issue.

Nice that it works though! 

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Re: DS-5
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2024, 09:22:30 AM »
Yikes!  Those are some pretty heavy handed mods.  Is this something that has come into your possession?  How / why?  If you take the feet off you can slide the internal chassis back and out of the shell.  I'm curious to see if there's anything left inside the box. 

Based on the non-stock isolating washers on the 1/4" jacks I'm going to guess that the original owner was chasing a hum problem?  That may have led to them moving the power transformer outside of the box away from the signal path.  But I'd also hazard a guess that these mods were unsuccessful in fixing the issue - which was more likely rf coming through the pickups.  Not a grounding issue nor a power transformer related issue.

Nice that it works though! 

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I got it as part of a bass deal from Brian. Yeah, it slides out. I'll take some pictures of the chassis as I'm curious as well.

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Re: DS-5
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2024, 10:35:52 AM »
every now and then i fantasize about taking my SII and the A-bass to a gig.  one problem is that my DS-5 is integrated into my home rig and i don't wanna cannabilize it to play a show.  besides the fact that the case for that bass is as big as a  full-size coffin (with built-in wheels), i'd hafta do the gig wearing a 14-lb robbery magnet that's worth more than most people's luxury cars.  my road rig is already bi-amped, all i'd need to go stereo is a DS-5.  doesn't hafta be pretty.  i ain't skeeered of re-habbing one, done it a coupla times already.  makes this kinda tempting.  got a big audition tomorrow that actually might turn into a band.  might hafta get back to ya on this.
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Re: DS-5
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2024, 11:37:34 AM »
I received that DS5 as part of the ridiculous deal I got from a musician from Canada for a well worn defretted series I. Never used it as Ive got a rack version as well as a backup so threw it in as part of my Europa 6 string deal with Dan. I don’t know why the mods were made but a little tweaking with the hum cancelling adjustments with the Series I took care of a slight hum I originally noted. I’ve subsequently played it in a number of venues without any problems. Then again, he was a touring pro who played in a lot more places than I do.

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Re: DS-5
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2024, 01:10:35 PM »
I wouldn't be surprised if you found one or two isolating audio transformers inside the box...  Let us know!

Chasing hum or audio noise can be challenging.  Ground loops for example can be elusive.  And it's always been tricky with our big single-coil Series pickups which can hear all spurious e-noise.  Before the individualized mods that Ron W came up with the noise problem could be somewhat frustrating, especially at certain venues or in environments with lots of other equipment - like almost everywhere. 

In my early days with Alembics I recognized the occasional hum issue as just a part of why the bass sounded so great.  So I found ways to deal with it along the way.  Like spinning around until I found the position with the least noise and standing that way, even if it meant pointing the headstock towards the audience.  HA!  After Ron did the upgrades on my basses I have rarely ever had to think about it.  Genius.

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Re: DS-5
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2024, 04:31:46 PM »
Inside pictures

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Re: DS-5
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2024, 09:49:59 PM »
Well heck, no transformers. Bad guess.

That looks like the stock bridge rectifier and regulating caps but there are a few extra components I don't recognize.  They've gone to a lot of effort to add a ground-pin to the AC plug and cable, a standard fuse post, and then isolating the 1/4" jacks from the chassis and adding a "ground lift" - although I'm not sure how that would apply. 

There's certainly more space in there than in the original DS-5!  It's a curious piece.  As long as it's putting out a good steady +/- 15-18VDC then it's doing its job.  I might not want to use it in the rain... :)

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Re: DS-5
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2024, 07:47:41 PM »
Well heck, no transformers. Bad guess.

That looks like the stock bridge rectifier and regulating caps but there are a few extra components I don't recognize.  They've gone to a lot of effort to add a ground-pin to the AC plug and cable, a standard fuse post, and then isolating the 1/4" jacks from the chassis and adding a "ground lift" - although I'm not sure how that would apply. 

There's certainly more space in there than in the original DS-5!  It's a curious piece.  As long as it's putting out a good steady +/- 15-18VDC then it's doing its job.  I might not want to use it in the rain... :)

Jimmy J

Thank you, Jimmy. It was a mystery to Brian and I.

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Re: DS-5
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2024, 07:53:16 AM »
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Re: DS-5
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2024, 05:23:30 PM »
You know, the more I look at this, I think it's a heavily modded Fernandes PS-5 Power Supply. I looked for a reference photo, and while the Fernandes name isn't legible, I can see the hint of the angular lettering above the switch.

I showed these pictures to dad, and he said that this isn't an Alembic power supply from the innards. I think dela217 has said the Fernandes power supplies work with Alembic instruments. I've never tested it, but I would take his good word for it.

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Re: DS-5
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2024, 04:53:10 AM »
You know, the more I look at this, I think it's a heavily modded Fernandes PS-5 Power Supply. I looked for a reference photo, and while the Fernandes name isn't legible, I can see the hint of the angular lettering above the switch.

I showed these pictures to dad, and he said that this isn't an Alembic power supply from the innards. I think dela217 has said the Fernandes power supplies work with Alembic instruments. I've never tested it, but I would take his good word for it.

Excellent, Mica! That's even better news as the mystery has been solved to the origin of this unit.

Please take this post down as I cannot sell it as an Alembic DS-5.

In hindsight it may have been better to ask about the unit before posting for sale but I didn't question it not being an Alembic because of the blue box color..lol

http://alembic.com/club/messages/411/208014.html?1408682942
http://alembic.com/club/messages/395/52811.html?1215240754
 Found a picture of the partial inside of the ps-5

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Re: DS-5
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2024, 07:17:13 AM »
I'll just rename it for now. Hey, I didn't even think of the Fernandes possibility until I looked at it hard.

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Re: Fernandes PS-5 Power Supply
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2024, 10:23:26 AM »
Stock Fernandes might be a +- 9volt power supply as they used different chips and stuff in the instruments.

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Re: Fernandes PS-5 Power Supply
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2024, 10:53:30 AM »
Worth using a volt meter to figure out what that PSU is spitting out.  That said, although not optimal, our Series instruments can operate on +/-9VDC as they do with the onboard batteries...

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