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hdfixer

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Personal WOS
« on: November 06, 2023, 09:56:00 PM »
Finally got all the pieces, and time, to set this up for a test flight.

It's glorious, and loud! 83 Series-1 5 string>DS-5R>Wayne Jones WJBA 2800>2 x Bergantino HG410 (running in stereo, one cab for each pickup).

Far exceeded my expectations for sonic quality and detail.  The Bergs really fill the room!

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Re: Personal WOS
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2023, 11:49:00 PM »
Yeah, series basses are glorious instruments. It helps that you have great gear to let those frequencies come through loud and clear.
The sound of Alembic is medicine for the soul!
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Re: Personal WOS
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2024, 08:48:21 AM »
I bought a WJ preamp last year for my Series I and new custom. I haven't had a chance to use it yet but I'm happy to see another Alembic owner getting good results from the preamp.

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Re: Personal WOS
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2024, 02:56:45 PM »
Looks great.   

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Re: Personal WOS
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2024, 03:05:38 PM »
I have the slightly older 1000WPC WJBAII and it’s *almost* perfect for our series basses. I saw Wayne Jones at NAMM last year and suggested a switch for the gain control on channel 2 to match the gain adjustment for channel 1 to make it much easier to set them similarly. What do you think about the different gain adjustments?

Dan - was that from me? Yours, I think, is the two channel preamp. The one hdfixerhas is the 1400WPC amp head version. I have the previous 1000WPC.

hdfixer

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Re: Personal WOS
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2024, 03:11:57 PM »
I do need to set the input gain differently on channel 2 but once set it's not an issue.   

I must admit the new Trickfish Bullhead 3K looks very cool as well for a high powered stereo head - it got NAMM 2024 Best of Show - looking forward to more technical specs!

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Re: Personal WOS
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2024, 12:40:44 PM »
I wonder how that would sound stacked vertically.

hdfixer

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Re: Personal WOS
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2024, 04:43:59 PM »
Same cabs but different rack. 

I recently picked up an F-2B and an SF-2,  and got them all working together today: DS-5R>SF-2>F-2B>Crest Prolite 2, full stereo.

The control and presence is breathtaking.  So good!

Interesting that having filters on your bass and in your chain are quite complementary and not overkill. This was my 77 medium scale S1- next time I will dig out the 6 string S2 and scare the local wildlife.

@Edwin - yes I will try a vertical stack soon - today I was going for separation to hear the differences in filter settings for each pickup.

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Re: Personal WOS
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2024, 01:03:07 AM »
Very nice! I've been using two Genzler MG-350s into a pair of BA-12s for my stereo rig. It's way more powerful than it has any right to be. A couple of months ago, I filled an outdoor venue with a few hundred people and apparently the sound guy didn't have me in the PA. Which was a pity because they have a nice Meyer rig there. But, by all accounts, nothing was lacking out front.

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Re: Personal WOS
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2024, 08:16:34 AM »
I must admit the new Trickfish Bullhead 3K looks very cool as well for a high powered stereo head - it got NAMM 2024 Best of Show - looking forward to more technical specs!

That's definitely a very cool amp... They've built a lot of flexibility into that 2 amp setup. I think it could make a really cool Series stereo amp. Worth a read - https://www.trickfishamps.com/shop/bullhead-3k/

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Re: Personal WOS
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2026, 09:12:44 AM »
Seems like as good a thread as any for this one...


The empty slot where the DS-5R used to be started bugging me, so I bought myself this Furman power conditioner and light module unit secondhand. Formerly everything in this rack was plugged into a rather heavy-duty power strip on the floor. I had a stick to reach back there and turn the whole thing on, awkward but it worked fine. Now it's all plugged into this one switchable unit, which by the way also monitors incoming voltage.

When I was about to mount the new-to-me power conditioner in my home practice rack, it occurred to me I really hadn't thought much about how I had all this gear connected in so long that I had pretty much forgotten how it was all connected. Might be useful to someone, so here goes...
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First of all know this, I no longer have a Series bass so true stereo isn't as much the issue. It was fairly simple to switch from the sending the DS-5R outs to the F-2B inputs to having a mono bass going straight to the F-2B... worked that out a good while back with an accessory I already used; an MXR M134 Stereo Chorus effect pedal. In my application here, it's acting as a Y, and I like to color my bass with a little twist of chorus effect anyway, especially for fretless and very moderate. Just know that's the first thing in the signal chain. Moving on.

From there, the bass signal is split into two, I send a blue-coded mono cable up to the F-2B left side input which is eq-biased for more of a bass response... bright switch is disengaged. The red-coded mono cable goes to the right side of the F-2B which is eq'd more for mids and high end, bright switch is engaged.

Coming out of the back of the F-2B;
Output A > Input A on SF-2 and
Output B > Input B on SF-2. 

Then to the QSC GX-7;
Output A of SF-2 > Ch1 Input on power amp.
Output B of SF-2 > Ch2 Input on power amp.

Speakers from Power Amp;
From Ch1 > Avatar B15 LF Eminence, Avatar B112 LF Eminence driver. (tweeter switched off)
From Ch2 > Avatar SB112 ×2 (mirrored pair)

*Should also mention (if you can't tell in the pics) I'm high-passing the "A" side and low-passing the "B" side of the Superfilter. The crossover points are set pretty conservative and as you can see those gains aren't cranked either. I'm not smart enough to understand how a band-pass works. Of course I'm open to suggestions... I read the manual to a point, I read some threads, and I finally just figured the fool thing out. I can make each bank of speakers do pretty much whatever I want with any bass.

On to the pictures... basses not included... 😊
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Re: Personal WOS
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2026, 10:09:24 AM »
Nice rigs you guys.

Gregory, There's no need to read any more manuals at this point, just use your ears and dial things in as you like them.  By running the two outputs of your chorus pedal the way you've describe you're basically doing "manual" bi-amping.  Lows get their own processing, amp channel and speaker cab, and so do the highs.  I'm sure that sounds HUGE.  And when you kick in to chorus it probably swims all over the room.  An inspiring sound!

I'm not sure what you do if you get into a large PA situation.  Maybe 2-DIs right after the chorus pedal - then ask the FOH person to split them hard left and right but run the two channels as if it were a mono bass signal.  Then when you kick in the chorus you can watch all the dancers fall down.  :D 

The only thing that might be worth checking is whether the 2 outputs of the chorus pedal are in phase with each other (even in bypass).  Not that it makes any difference really, but it could affect the overall low-end.  When the chorus is "on" there will naturally be some phase shifting - well, that's kinda what it's meant to do - because processing can add delay.  So as long as that doesn't make the low-end disappear it's not an issue.

Fun with gear!
Jimmy J

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Re: Personal WOS
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2026, 10:25:54 AM »
...The only thing that might be worth checking is whether the 2 outputs of the chorus pedal are in phase with each other (even in bypass).  Not that it makes any difference really, but it could affect the overall low-end.  When the chorus is "on" there will naturally be some phase shifting - well, that's kinda what it's meant to do - because processing can add delay.  So as long as that doesn't make the low-end disappear it's not an issue.

Fun with gear!
Jimmy J

I was hoping you'd catch this and post Jimmy J. That M134 actually has an eq bypass flipswitch, so no tonesuck at all. You can adjust this one so that the chorus effect is noticeable more on higher frequencies without sacrificing the lowend.

And I never even move all that junk... other than to vacuum. (hence the casterboards...) When I'm playing out anywhere, it's a much smaller footprint. I have the "little-sister" MXR analog chorus to this one on a pedalboard with a tuner. It still has the eq bypass flipswitch. (and even a flange switch that I never use). Most of the time for the big show where I actually have a FOH guy, it's just a clean pre-eq DI out of my F-1X, or the DI of my ancient Mesa WalkAbout, which is also pre-eq. The chorus-y stuff is just for me to enjoy. 😄


Thanks for your thoughts!

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Re: Personal WOS
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2026, 11:36:00 AM »
I had a similar chorus thing going back in the day when I ran a stereo rig.  The bridge and neck pickups of my old Series I basically ran straight into a stereo power amp with no extra pres or EQ.  Then I had an ADA Stereo Tapped Delay which got its input signal from the bridge pickup channel and when turned on simply added the processed sound (wet only) to both amp channels through a little summing network.  So there was a slight boost in volume plus some chorusing bridge pickup would appear in the bass pickup speakers.  Sure was fun to stand in front of! 

Even if the full effect of these crazy rigs can't be shared in a big PA setting, making a sound that YOU find inspiring is always worth the effort. 

Great stuff.
Jimmy J