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Mlazarus

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« on: June 17, 2023, 04:03:58 PM »
So, as you all know, some owners of older series 1 basses tend to move the selector switch.
I'm thinking about doing this. How many of you think it will diminish the value of the bass?
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Re: modifications
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2023, 04:37:03 PM »
Personally I would not do anything that can not be reversed later.

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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2023, 06:32:33 PM »
Unlike old Strats and Les Pauls, “100% original” isn’t nearly as important a factor with Alembics since they are made in such small numbers and few are exactly alike.   I don’t think changing it will hurt value to any significant extent.  On my ‘76 Series I MSG I found my pinky hitting the point on the selector switch on the horn.   I reversed the pointer knob so the pointy part is facing down.  Solved the problem.

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Re: modifications
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2023, 10:33:48 PM »
I open hand slap, so my hand hits the whole selector. I noticed guys on YouTube who slap have their selector moved to the other switch sections.
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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2023, 11:18:06 PM »
I slap on my series shorty and i changed the switch to round switch without the point. It works for me but maybe my technique is different to yours.
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Re: modifications
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2023, 11:21:45 PM »
I can pop with no problem, but I have an open full hand technique that needs space.
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2023, 05:09:12 AM »
I will tag on to Bill’s statement about “100% original isn’t nearly as important”.

My .02.
Alembics are essential all custom made.  Being hand crafted no two are exactly alike.  Sure there are templates used and defined electronic packages installed, there are also constantly evolving ‘improvements’ being made and no two instruments ever use the exact same piece of wood, hand sanding and finishing brings a uniqueness to each instrument.   Altering a feature does not mean a decrease of value* it only redefines the “custom” aspect.


*value is rather subjective as noted in the For Sale section - people will pay whatever the instrument is worth to them, the individual, not on some type of scorecard rating system.

Do whatever you want to get more joy out of your bass.  David’s point has validity, if you are planning on selling your bass.  Alternatively if a prospective buyer has a similar playing style to yours… the value of the modification just improved!

Good luck with your decision.

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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2023, 06:12:06 AM »

I personally would not care about the switch being relocated as long as it wasn't a hack job. But this is the real world, and here is what will happen when you try to sell it... a prospective buyer, who most likely plans to flip it anyway, will lowball you because of it. Sure, you can wait for a buyer who is exactly the player who wants exactly that mod. Just be aware, it might be a little bit.


Here's one I played one time with that switch mod. This '77 Series I had several other mods during her long, strange trip, so a switch move wasn't a big deal.

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Re: modifications
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2023, 02:49:15 PM »
Very good points People. I think I will make the move. ONE aspect to remember though: My bass was owned by TM Stevens. He is a well-known session bassist from NYC. Look him up. He switched from Alembic in 83' to play Warwicks. He has TM Stevens Warwick Signature basses marketed. So, as the seller of my once-owned TM Stevens series 1, if I do sell it (Not going to) it comes with TM's original Paperwork with his Signature and personal info. I'm sure some buyer would make many statements about the value. On one hand, the value will/may be high, because it was TM's, but on the other hand, someone may say "OOHH, you 'tampered' with this TM Stevens bass! So, I you devalued it! Well....Then I won't tell you I moved the selector switch! how's that for you?! LOL.
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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2023, 03:06:00 PM »
So move the switch to the spot like the one above; this is approximately where a future Master Volume pot would go. If you wanted to return the switch to its original location later, have a MV added in the vacant hole. Most I think would consider that an upgrade modification.

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Re: modifications
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2023, 06:21:26 PM »
What is the Master volume connection configuration for this bass? That's a good idea, but if I use the old selector section, I will have to make sure the MV dial is very short. Almost like the thickness of two quarters, so my hand won't get in the way. OR...make it an LED light.
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« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2023, 04:58:09 AM »
This photo shows where the pickup selector is typically located on newer basses. Some people move the selector from the lower horn to this position on older basses.  I don’t think moving the selector to this position would affect the value if done properly.

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« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2023, 05:25:33 AM »
I think you have to ask yourself, “why did I purchase this bass?” If the main reason was as I suspect, to enjoy playing it and the experience of the Alembic sound, then do whatever you need to do to maximize the enjoyment you feel when playing the bass (I.e., move the switch). If you purchased the bass primarily as an investment and hope to make a profit from selling it in the near future, then keep as is. Regardless of what you do, I think you will fine that it’s value as an Alembic (modded or not) FAR Outweighs whatever value people will attribute to it as a former bass of a session musician.

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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2023, 03:00:10 PM »
Way back when I worked at Alembic the Tom Fowler S1 came through the shop. Selector switch had been moved as suggested above, and the hole filled with a British coin. Very stylish.

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« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2023, 03:26:58 PM »
Way back when I worked at Alembic the Tom Fowler S1 came through the shop. Selector switch had been moved as suggested above, and the hole filled with a British coin. Very stylish.

I recall a thread that shows that mod - super cool!