Author Topic: Zebra fretless spoiler  (Read 291 times)

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Re: Zebra fretless spoiler
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2023, 06:08:29 PM »
OMG.
That would pair so well with my Distillate. 
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Re: Zebra fretless spoiler
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2023, 04:24:53 AM »
Yes, this is a cool looking bass.  Love the zebrawood, and love the San Juan region as well!  :)

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Re: Zebra fretless spoiler
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2023, 04:58:10 AM »
Isn't there some rule or regulation that prohibits storing an Alembic in a Gibson Gig Bag?  ???

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Re: Zebra fretless spoiler
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2023, 10:20:55 AM »
This same bass sold about 2 years ago... I was drooling over it - still am, actually!

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Re: Zebra fretless spoiler
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2023, 09:07:20 AM »
I have been in commutation with the seller and requested close-up photos of the fingerboard to ascertain a better comprehension of the condition of it. I made an inquiry as well as to how the pulled fret cavities were filled and the type of wood,  as in my opinion the work could have been done better. In the close-up photos, it was also noticeable that someone has applied a finish to the fretboard, which the seller confirmed upon my inquiry of such . The oval inlays under the finish now appear to have a yellowish colouration to them, thus indicating that the finish might not be of a clear variety.
In my evaluation, if I were to acquire this bass, I would need to send it to Alembic for fingerboard work .
I should mention that the seller has been exemplary regrading communication  and volunteered his observation that the serial number was difficult to read due to what he thinks may have been the sanding that was done by the individual who pulled the frets .:)  Friends ; I make no claims on this instrument .


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Re: Zebra fretless spoiler
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2023, 05:38:43 PM »
In regard to the tint in the finish on this bass’ fingerboard; I suggest that the luthier may have used something other than a lacquer or polyurethane based product. Back in the days when I was making and repairing instruments, I would offer fretted to fretless conversions in a variety of ways. The most “traditional” method called for removing the fretboard and replacing it with one that I crafted from ebony, but I only did this a handful of times.

The vast majority of basses that I converted to fretless were Fenders. I don’t believe that I ever did this to a “slab board” Fender. As best I recall, all of the Fender basses that I converted had the thin, curved veneer rosewood boards which really did not make removal/replacement a practical solution. For these basses, I’d remove the frets, fill the slots with maple, then plane the board. This would work pretty well for basses with dot inlays and for players who strung them with flat-wounds. Players who used round-wounds could expect the strings to chew through the exposed wood and dramatically reduce the longevity of the board.

On Jazz Basses that had rectangular “pearloid” inlays, this was not an ideal solution as the resonance of the strings on the inlays was markedly different than it was on the wood.

I read an interview with Jaco Pastorious sometime in the ’70’s when he explained that he pulled the frets off of his bass with a butter knife, filled the slots with putty, and coated the board with Pettit’s Poly Poxy.

Pettit Paints is a company that makes and distributes paints, resins, and other coatings geared for the marine industry. I used the technique that Jaco described, (but did not use a butter knife, nor did I use wood putty), and coated a board, planed and polished it, and was very pleased with the results. The epoxy coated boards proved to be much more durable than bare wood, and eliminated the problem that block inlays presented.

A few years later when Jaco paid his first visit to my shop, I asked him if the Poly Poxy story was correct. He replied in the affirmative.

One interesting characteristic of the Poly Poxy is that it had a translucent greenish hue. On the rosewood this was not noticeable, but on the maple strips and the inlays it was quite noticeable, and upon close inspection created an effect that I found to be moderately hideous, yet subtly repulsive.

I believe that Mike Pedulla used a similar product but without the greenish cast on his Buzz Basses.

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Re: Zebra fretless spoiler
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2023, 07:00:40 PM »
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upon close inspection created an effect that I found to be moderately hideous, yet subtly repulsive.

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Re: Zebra fretless spoiler
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2023, 07:51:50 PM »
I had ordered a Kubiki fretless neck for my Shedua body P bass Emgs, Badass bridge, brass nut, Schaller tuners. It had aFender fretless neck that had to constantly be adjusted. During the wait for it, they stopped making replacement necks and concentrated on X factors. Grand Gaiters in Englewood NJ's Phil Keller had a fretted Jazz Kubiki neck converted to fretless with maple lines inserted and finished in Swedish epoxy. Extremely durable finish. I used round wounds on it and no noticeable wear. Dot inlays had the same appearance .

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Re: Zebra fretless spoiler
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2023, 12:21:48 PM »
"moderately hideous, yet subtly repulsive"
I'm pretty sure that was the caption under my Senior Year photo in the yearbook!  :o  ;D

Thanks for all the extra information y'all are sharing. I love reading these histories. I wish I could take this bass on right now – I'd love to do the fingerboard work – but I can't unless one of the two I have up for sale right now gets bought!