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glocke

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Boss Waza Air and SCSD
« on: February 15, 2022, 01:59:20 AM »
I bought a Boss Waza Air a few months back and have been using it with my passive J-basses.


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Last night I tried it with my SCSD and ended up with his high pitched signal coming from it...It was eerily similar to the EEEEEE for those of us who suffer from tinititus have to deal with.


It did seem to dissipate if I laid my fingers across all of the strings, but it took several seconds for that to happen and returns the second I lift my fingers up.


Does anyone have a suggestion on how I can get rid of that or what might be causing it? 

keith_h

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Re: Boss Waza Air and SCSD
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2022, 07:11:13 AM »
I suspect it is the transmitter in the Waza air interfering with the electronics in the bass. As to why it dissipates when you touch the strings I'm not sure other than it dampens any signal from coming through the pickups so there is nothing to interfere with. You might try getting an extension cable so the Waza air is further away from the electronics cavity. 

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Re: Boss Waza Air and SCSD
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2022, 09:05:59 AM »
Had something similar when playing my Rogue through a friend's Quilter amp--HF noise/oscillation. I suspect in my case it was generated by the Quilter's switching power supply, I agree with Keith on yours, but suspect adding a cable won't help.

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Re: Boss Waza Air and SCSD
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2022, 11:08:02 AM »
In both of these cases, we’re the basses equipped with the RF upgrade?

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Re: Boss Waza Air and SCSD
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2022, 12:16:43 AM »
In both of these cases, we’re the basses equipped with the RF upgrade?

Mr Wizard would know.  ;) 8)

MY SCSD is from 2006, not sure it would need one.  Kind of stinks as I wanted to get rid of my wired headphone amp (PJ Bighead) but feel like I need to hang onto it

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Re: Boss Waza Air and SCSD
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2022, 09:57:08 AM »
My Rogue was built for the Y2K catalog, not sure if the upgrade was standard issue in late '99. It's been trouble free all its life, other than very occasionally picking up minor buzz off of lighting.

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Re: Boss Waza Air and SCSD
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2022, 10:30:44 AM »
Greg,

I think Keith is right, most likely the proximity of the transmitter to the electronics or pickups.  Our Alembics are much more sensitive to external rf than passive instruments.

Kind of a pain, but I would also suggest a short 1/4" extension cable, like 2 feet long, and putting the transmitter in your back pocket.  You might be able to test the theory if you had a 1/4" headphone extension cable - although it wouldn't be shielded so the results may be worse...  But that Waza looks like fun so it would be nice to find a workaround.

Jimmy J

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Re: Boss Waza Air and SCSD
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2022, 05:20:09 PM »
I've tried one 'headphone rig' after another and every one lacked the horsepower for bass in a fashion I care to hear it.

I bought a Mackie 1202VLZ with the 1/4" high headroom VLZ inputs on the first 4 channels (they double the XLR's), plug in whatever source I'm playing to, and since the Mackie has a one watt headphone output, they'll drive any good headphones, even D240 AKG's with their 600 ohm impedance to PLENTY loud, so I don't have to use earbuds or some cheapo supplied headphones.  Never looked back.  And of course, you can insert from a good channel strip, preamp, pedals, whatever you want upstream.  Done deal.

Would love to output to some powered 812 Mackie monitors with a subwoofer, than I could consolidate my playback and practice amp, or back to headphones when Mrs. Wilson calls 'TIME!'.  Yes !
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Re: Boss Waza Air and SCSD
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2022, 02:00:31 AM »
Greg,

I think Keith is right, most likely the proximity of the transmitter to the electronics or pickups.  Our Alembics are much more sensitive to external rf than passive instruments.

Kind of a pain, but I would also suggest a short 1/4" extension cable, like 2 feet long, and putting the transmitter in your back pocket.  You might be able to test the theory if you had a 1/4" headphone extension cable - although it wouldn't be shielded so the results may be worse...  But that Waza looks like fun so it would be nice to find a workaround.

Jimmy J

Thanks Jimmy..I asked over on TB, and it sounds like a grounding issue and a 1/4 M-F TS adapter my take care of it.  Thats only a couple bucks so ordered one from Sweetwater (needed candy anyway so why not right ?).

I've tried one 'headphone rig' after another and every one lacked the horsepower for bass in a fashion I care to hear it.

I bought a Mackie 1202VLZ with the 1/4" high headroom VLZ inputs on the first 4 channels (they double the XLR's), plug in whatever source I'm playing to, and since the Mackie has a one watt headphone output, they'll drive any good headphones, even D240 AKG's with their 600 ohm impedance to PLENTY loud, so I don't have to use earbuds or some cheapo supplied headphones.  Never looked back.  And of course, you can insert from a good channel strip, preamp, pedals, whatever you want upstream.  Done deal.

Would love to output to some powered 812 Mackie monitors with a subwoofer, than I could consolidate my playback and practice amp, or back to headphones when Mrs. Wilson calls 'TIME!'.  Yes !

I am pretty particular about the sound I hear in my headphones when using those to practice so I get it.  I was skeptical about the Boss waza air when I first read about it, but ordered one and figured I'd just send it back if I thought it was sub-par but trust me when I say it is really, really good.  So good in fact I am considering selling my Phil Jones headphone amp if I can get the noise issue with the SCSD resolved.  both the build quality and sound quality of the Boss Waza air impresses me.

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Re: Boss Waza Air and SCSD
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2022, 02:35:12 PM »
I have had a few of these headphone amps and they have all had issues that meant i had to get another. First was a tascam CD based unit but the sound quality wasn't good when trying to slow the tracks down. Next, The vox plug in jack thing that was ok but being plastic it soon broke. Next i got the PJB Big Head which i really like but the battery soon stopped holding charge and i couldn't get a replacement that fitted, i still use it with one of those usb battery packs but now the tiny usb socket is loose inside. I had it repaired but it's gone again so it's intermittent. So now i use the Stanley Clarke acoustic preamp which is great and so far no issues with it. I can't see myself going wireless.
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